News & Discussion: Planning Issues & Challenges
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Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
Well what will be more expensive??
Buying out property for an above ground corridor or to build an underground subway system?
Also considering I heard Adelaide's state of its soil is very soft and will probably make it more expensive to go underground?
Buying out property for an above ground corridor or to build an underground subway system?
Also considering I heard Adelaide's state of its soil is very soft and will probably make it more expensive to go underground?
Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
Yes, it will be expensive, either way. I don't think the people on South Road near Henley Beach Road and Grange Road will sell their properties for as little as the people down on Anzac Highway.
But if you go underground with rail or road, you are able to unclog several corridors. What happens when the people travelling South Road hit Anzac Highway? Then they will be squeezed into Anzac Highway right into the city, especially if they have to turn right from South Road onto Anzac Highway.
So the most efficient solution I would think would be underground rail... especially environment-wise. Otherwise, underground road will have to do. But you can't just keep widening the roads, because you'll just make the people get to the clogged corridors faster.
But if you go underground with rail or road, you are able to unclog several corridors. What happens when the people travelling South Road hit Anzac Highway? Then they will be squeezed into Anzac Highway right into the city, especially if they have to turn right from South Road onto Anzac Highway.
So the most efficient solution I would think would be underground rail... especially environment-wise. Otherwise, underground road will have to do. But you can't just keep widening the roads, because you'll just make the people get to the clogged corridors faster.
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Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
Well either way doesn't bother me.
I'm just looking at what will be a more feasible idea.
I'm just looking at what will be a more feasible idea.
Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
There are only 3 rail corridors left in the metro area to build - Port Road (light rail), Old Glenelg rail corridor (light rail/heavy rail) O-Bahn corridor (heavy rail, light rail)
Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
We can also expand on the current ones we have now... I'm sure we can fit more services into some of those routes, we just need the tracks upgraded and new rail cars that can travel at better speeds. Better accelleration would be a start, the jumbos especially are disgraceful in their accelleration.
Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
None of the rail corridors in Adelaide are anywhere near clogged. Stacks of potential.
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Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
Yeah they arnt clogged.
The problem is we do not have enough corridors to benefit all areas.
More should be made
The problem is we do not have enough corridors to benefit all areas.
More should be made
Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
where do all you people think the state government grows there money trees?
road tunnels, subways pfffft
welcome to Adelaide, it aint no Dubai unfortunantly..............
road tunnels, subways pfffft
welcome to Adelaide, it aint no Dubai unfortunantly..............
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Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
Its just i hope were not getting our hopes up to high, thats allAtD wrote:What do you think this thread is about Cruise Control?
Re: #Article: Avoiding chaos from the boom
Though i hope im wrongCruise Control wrote:Its just i hope were not getting our hopes up to high, thats allAtD wrote:What do you think this thread is about Cruise Control?
#article: City lacks 'strategic planning'
City lacks 'strategic planning'
Article from: The Advertiser
GREG KELTON, STATE EDITOR
August 04, 2007 02:15am
A STRATEGY aimed at more rigorous preparation for major developments within the city is being drawn up by a group of the state's leading architects.
They want more consultation and more thought given to the siting of major projects such as the proposed new hospital, the sale of Cheltenham racecourse and the parklands redevelopment.
The architects will reveal their proposals within the next few days and hope they will be adopted by the major political parties.
Both the Opposition and Lord Mayor Michael Harbison agree on much more targeted planning, including a master plan for Adelaide's development.
A spokesman for the group, David Burton of Williams Burton Architects, said there did not seem to be "a lot of cohesion to major planning issues", saying: "Too many developments are being considered as individual projects when, in reality, there is a lot of linkage between them.
"We are trying to get discussion on developments to take on a more critical analysis of what is happening with developments in Adelaide."
Mr Burton said the proposed new $1.7 billion hospital in the city's west was a case in point.
"All the public comments at the moment seem to be just about its name," he said.
"What needs to be looked at is whether that is the right site considering all the other elements around it.
"There is a state government strategic plan but it doesn't detail specific sites for projects. It doesn't say 'we have these six or seven sites which are key development opportunities'.
"We need to have, essentially, a new plan which hones in on specific areas rather than just plonking things down willy-nilly."
Opposition planning spokesman David Ridgway said it was obvious Adelaide needed a "master plan".
He said the Liberals were in the process of drawing up new policies for the 2010 election and one of those would involve planning.
"The community needs some long-term vision of what the city will look like," Mr Ridgway said.
Mr Harbison said Adelaide did have the City of Adelaide Development Act which required a development program for the city.
"But it is something which, over the years, has been honoured in the breach," he said.
"We really need to beef up strategic planning."
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Re: #article: City lacks 'strategic planning'
Hot off the press hey Howie?
I agree with what has been said. I guess we are all interested in this. As I don't buy the paper during the week hopefully one of you guys can post the report when published.
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I agree with what has been said. I guess we are all interested in this. As I don't buy the paper during the week hopefully one of you guys can post the report when published.
Cheers
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