News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

[rubberman]

I have no specific opinion myself, but once the Gawler electrification is done, wouldn't it be better to electrify the Hills line?

Would not electric traction produce a bigger improvement on the grades there? The Port line is flat, and the diesels would find that less of a challenge.

or is there some other consideration?

Also, there's a lot of development up North. If we don't plan some heavy rail there now, we never will.

[Mr Messy]

I have no specific opinion myself, but once the Gawler electrification is done, wouldn't it be better to electrify the Hills line?

Would not electric traction produce a bigger improvement on the grades there? The Port line is flat, and the diesels would find that less of a challenge.

or is there some other consideration?

Also, there's a lot of development up North. If we don't plan some heavy rail there now, we never will.

The Sleeps Hill tunnel makes its very difficult to electrify the line. My understanding is it would require major works to install the lines due to its construction

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[Ser Noit of Loit]

With the state election fast approaching, I think it's very possible we will hear plans to electrify the Port Adelaide Line.

*fingers crossed*

Isn't that line intended to be converted to a tramline?

[[Shuz]]

Well, all indicators are that won't be happening anymore.

The Torrens Junction project, Port Dock Spur and Bowden Station redevelopment are all enginereed and built to heavy-rail standards. Its retention as a heavy rail corridor and electrification is very likely.

[Kasey771]

With the state election fast approaching, I think it's very possible we will hear plans to electrify the Port Adelaide Line.

*fingers crossed*

Isn't that line intended to be converted to a tramline?

trams would be a step backwards IMO. It should and likely will remain heavy rail.

[claybro]

With the state election fast approaching, I think it's very possible we will hear plans to electrify the Port Adelaide Line.

*fingers crossed*

Isn't that line intended to be converted to a tramline?

trams would be a step backwards IMO. It should and likely will remain heavy rail.

Of 4 options for Thi corridor, 3 of them recommended light rail, mainly due to flexibility of multiple destinations. Except for those North of Semaphore, light rail will be just as quick, and more frequent if a dedicated rail corridor is used through the parklands instead of port road.

Have to agree with Shuz though, it appears as though upgrade of heavy rail now appears to be the preferred option, so say good bye to West Lakesand Semaphore road spurs, and quite possibly the grange line.

[A-Town]

I have no specific opinion myself, but once the Gawler electrification is done, wouldn't it be better to electrify the Hills line?

Would not electric traction produce a bigger improvement on the grades there? The Port line is flat, and the diesels would find that less of a challenge.

or is there some other consideration?

Also, there's a lot of development up North. If we don't plan some heavy rail there now, we never will.

The Sleeps Hill tunnel makes its very difficult to electrify the line. My understanding is it would require major works to install the lines due to its construction

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Yep, for this reason electrifying the Belair line is a long way off.

[Llessur2002]

The obligatory 'before' shot of the National Rail Museum yard area which will become the new Port Adelaide railway station.

Hopefully this view should start to change soon...

[rubberman]

I have no specific opinion myself, but once the Gawler electrification is done, wouldn't it be better to electrify the Hills line?

Would not electric traction produce a bigger improvement on the grades there? The Port line is flat, and the diesels would find that less of a challenge.

or is there some other consideration?

Also, there's a lot of development up North. If we don't plan some heavy rail there now, we never will.

The Sleeps Hill tunnel makes its very difficult to electrify the line. My understanding is it would require major works to install the lines due to its construction

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Yep, for this reason electrifying the Belair line is a long way off.

Not disagreeing or anything, but would it be any more difficult than the Torrens junction project?

[Mr Messy]

The Sleeps Hill tunnel makes its very difficult to electrify the line. My understanding is it would require major works to install the lines due to its construction

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Yep, for this reason electrifying the Belair line is a long way off.

Not disagreeing or anything, but would it be any more difficult than the Torrens junction project?

Yes, because they would have to somehow resize the existing tunnel or dig a new one through sandy soil

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[EBG]

Electrifying Sleeps Hill tunnel is not that great a problem, you do not need complicated catenary, one simply fixes a conducting rod directly to the roof of the tunnel and the pantagraphs automatically adjust the any change in heights.

[muzzamo]

Electrifying Sleeps Hill tunnel is not that great a problem, you do not need complicated catenary, one simply fixes a conducting rod directly to the roof of the tunnel and the pantagraphs automatically adjust the any change in heights.

An inanimate carbon rod!

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[Patrick_27]

OR just make the tunnel deeper by digging out the ground below the tracks and lowering them. It could be done, I think the problem is more the fact that electrifying the Belair line would present issues with timing of such a long single line system, I'd presume they'd need to move freight north before any such consideration was made to electrify, in which case I'd also hope they'd consider extending it back out as far as Bridgwater if not Mt. Barker or Murray Bridge...

[Eurostar]

I recommend Aldinga needs a train service asap because the population could support it, also maybe even a branch line servicing Seaford Vista and McLaren Vale

[EBG]

When electrification was first announced in 2008 all the metropolitan lines were to be converted to standard gauge by 2013 and all new work since then has used dual gauge sleepers. if this is done we would not have 2 single lines between Adelaide and Belair then trains could return to Bridgewater and extend to Mount Barker. It is all a question of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.