News & Discussion: Trams

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1846 Post by Patrick_27 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:53 am

Any word on whether or not they will be resealing the remaining road on either side of the new tracks? Seems like a no brainer to me but is it budgeted?

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#1847 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:20 am

I believe that North Terrace is an ACC owned road and that the tram tracks are owned by DPTI.
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1848 Post by Mr Messy » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:47 am

[Shuz] wrote:I believe that North Terrace is an ACC owned road and that the tram tracks are owned by DPTI.
Correct. All roads in the CBD are council owned

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1849 Post by ChillyPhilly » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:15 pm

Just a thought, maybe there won't be a full grand junction at North Tce/KWS so that people using the tram are encouraged to get off at ARS and walk through a completed Festival Plaza area?
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1850 Post by bits » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:46 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:Just a thought, maybe there won't be a full grand junction at North Tce/KWS so that people using the tram are encouraged to get off at ARS and walk through a completed Festival Plaza area?
Maybe just because it doesn't suit the intended routes. Grand unions are not common, it is not unusual that it will not be a grand union.
The lack of the grand union is really just a sign of sane and logical route planning.
Time to get over this single junction.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1851 Post by monotonehell » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:01 pm

Llessur2002 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:05 pm
Latest positive update from InDail...sorry...the Advertiser:
Vehicles flooded intersections, blocking oncoming traffic when lights turned red, and some disobeyed traffic controllers as main roads as far as Kent Town and North Adelaide became carparks during peak hour.
This has nothing to do with the traffic works. I see this happen every day. People might remember I've posted about it a few times in the past.

Drivers need to be educated not to chance jumping into a blocked intersection. It causes a lot of congestion at the best of times.
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1852 Post by Nathan » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:11 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:01 pm
Llessur2002 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:05 pm
Latest positive update from InDail...sorry...the Advertiser:
Vehicles flooded intersections, blocking oncoming traffic when lights turned red, and some disobeyed traffic controllers as main roads as far as Kent Town and North Adelaide became carparks during peak hour.
This has nothing to do with the traffic works. I see this happen every day. People might remember I've posted about it a few times in the past.

Drivers need to be educated not to chance jumping into a blocked intersection. It causes a lot of congestion at the best of times.
I commented on the article about exactly that. Looks like it didn't fit their narrative, as it was promptly deleted by their mod.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1853 Post by monotonehell » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:16 pm

Nathan wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:11 pm
monotonehell wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:01 pm
This has nothing to do with the traffic works. I see this happen every day. People might remember I've posted about it a few times in the past.

Drivers need to be educated not to chance jumping into a blocked intersection. It causes a lot of congestion at the best of times.
I commented on the article about exactly that. Looks like it didn't fit their narrative, as it was promptly deleted by their mod.
Can't upset their angry motorist customers. You know, the ones who are actually at fault.
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1854 Post by ml69 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:04 pm

Drivers need to be educated not to chance jumping into a blocked intersection. It causes a lot of congestion at the best of times.
I don't think this is a common problem in Adelaide. When I lived in Sydney, I distinctly noticed that it happens all the time there, like it's part of the driving culture there.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1855 Post by monotonehell » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:33 pm

ml69 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:04 pm
Drivers need to be educated not to chance jumping into a blocked intersection. It causes a lot of congestion at the best of times.
I don't think this is a common problem in Adelaide. When I lived in Sydney, I distinctly noticed that it happens all the time there, like it's part of the driving culture there.
Anecdotal, but I see at least two occurrences of it each day walking home from work at various intersections.
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1856 Post by mshagg » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:31 am

King William and pirie/waymouth - it occurs at basically every light sequence during PM peak hour. Particularly dangerous given it's a scatter crossing so you have (rightly) embarrassed motorists trying to scurry out of the middle of the intersection in the midst of heavy pedestrian movements.

It's telling that the 'tiser would apportion blame to civil works for it, rather than the selfish and impatient drivers who are illegally entering blocked intersections.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1857 Post by monotonehell » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:11 pm

mshagg wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:31 am
...rather than the selfish and impatient drivers who are illegally entering blocked intersections.
Is there a specific road rule about this?
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1858 Post by Llessur2002 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:14 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:11 pm
mshagg wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:31 am
...rather than the selfish and impatient drivers who are illegally entering blocked intersections.
Is there a specific road rule about this?
http://mylicence.sa.gov.au/road-rules/t ... bstruction

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1859 Post by monotonehell » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:17 pm

Llessur2002 wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:14 pm
monotonehell wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:11 pm
mshagg wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:31 am
...rather than the selfish and impatient drivers who are illegally entering blocked intersections.
Is there a specific road rule about this?
http://mylicence.sa.gov.au/road-rules/t ... bstruction
Right then. Time for the cops to do a blitz that is just "revenue raising". ;)
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1860 Post by [Shuz] » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:49 pm

The cops would have a field day for intersection obstruction offences in the CBD. Grenfell / KWS is another notorious intersection, as is Grote Street crossing over KWS northbound in Victoria Square in the PM peak hour (which has only gotten worse since the Central Market right hand turn has been put in).
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