[PRO] Port Adelaide Dock Spur Line

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[PRO] Re: Port Adelaide Dock Spur Line

#121 Post by Goodsy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:00 am

claybro wrote:
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PeFe wrote:
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F. F. S Just make Grange a spur line line...........change at Woodville.

Port Dock - City........all stops

Outer Harbor - City.....all stops to Woodville, express to city.
Surely it is not worthwhile to run a train (Grange) for 4 stops with a bloody great golf course in the middle?
Time to force the sale of the golf course and turn it into a TOD

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#122 Post by Norman » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:17 am

Goodsy wrote:
claybro wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:09 am
PeFe wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:44 pm
F. F. S Just make Grange a spur line line...........change at Woodville.

Port Dock - City........all stops

Outer Harbor - City.....all stops to Woodville, express to city.
Surely it is not worthwhile to run a train (Grange) for 4 stops with a bloody great golf course in the middle?
Time to force the sale of the golf course and turn it into a TOD
We need more open space and more greenery in Adelaide, not less. It helps suburban cooling and provides open space for recreation and wellbeing.

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#123 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:32 am

Norman wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:17 am
Goodsy wrote:
claybro wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:09 am


Surely it is not worthwhile to run a train (Grange) for 4 stops with a bloody great golf course in the middle?
Time to force the sale of the golf course and turn it into a TOD
We need more open space and more greenery in Adelaide, not less. It helps suburban cooling and provides open space for recreation and wellbeing.
We also need infill to stop suburban sprawl. Surely there will be a compromise with leaving some of the golf course as parks. I don't understand why there are so many golf courses in Adelaide. When you fly over Adelaide in a plane, they take up so much area.

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#124 Post by Goodsy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:49 am

Norman wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:17 am
Goodsy wrote:
claybro wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:09 am


Surely it is not worthwhile to run a train (Grange) for 4 stops with a bloody great golf course in the middle?
Time to force the sale of the golf course and turn it into a TOD
We need more open space and more greenery in Adelaide, not less. It helps suburban cooling and provides open space for recreation and wellbeing.

That's true, but do we need 3 golf courses within 3 kilometers of each other on the same road?

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#125 Post by ChillyPhilly » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:58 am

There's substantial space for TODs at Kilkenny and Seaton Park stations.
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#126 Post by claybro » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:03 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:
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There's substantial space for TODs at Kilkenny and Seaton Park stations.
Thank you. There is literally acres of wasted ex industrial space adjacent to Kilkenny station before we go carving up golf courses. The Grange train is more than viable as an all stops, particularly with urban infill, and to free up OH for express services. If the people running the trains cant manage to slot a 30min frequency OH express in between an all stops grange AND Port dock, they shouldn't be in the business.

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#127 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:52 pm

In hindsight, the West Lakes devlopment should have left the stadium and instead be built at Seaton Park or the golf course. The new development would already have a railway to the city :wallbash: At least the Port Adelaide development will have Port Dock railway station.

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#128 Post by claybro » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:59 pm

1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:52 pm
In hindsight, the West Lakes devlopment should have left the stadium and instead be built at Seaton Park or the golf course. The new development would already have a railway to the city :wallbash: At least the Port Adelaide development will have Port Dock railway station.
While we are discussing urban renewal in relation to the Grange Line, does anyone know why the redevelopment at Woodville West former housing trust estate is moving so slowly? I was still living in the area when it was first proposed and the first housed came down. It seems to have sat largely idle whilst St Claire has steamed ahead. I thought it was a pretty good location with good transport links and the mall nearby?

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#129 Post by Bob » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:19 pm

Marshall Govt derails Port Dock railway line

https://indaily.com.au/news/2019/06/20/ ... lway-line/

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#130 Post by Waewick » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:30 pm

So I wonder if they will tell us what made it more expensive.

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#131 Post by [Shuz] » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:31 pm

Can't say I'm all too surprised by this.
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#132 Post by Norman » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:36 pm

Good afternoon

North Western Planning Study

The State Government will develop a North Western Planning Study to consider and improve public transport needs and delivery in the Port Adelaide area.
As part of the Study, a review of the scope of the Port Dock Railway Line and Station Project will be undertaken to consider broader benefits to the growing Port Adelaide precinct and surrounding suburbs.

Following detailed planning work, it has been revealed that the Port Dock project would cost $40 million to deliver, not the $16 million initial cost estimate prior to detailed planning works.

The initial $16 million of funding was committed without a full technical site assessment and concept design. Progressing through these has identified potential opportunities to further improve public transport services and connectivity for Port Adelaide and more broadly, the north western suburbs. Progression to major works has paused, pending the findings of the study.

The Public Transport Projects Alliance has been engaged to undertake the North Western Planning Study with the results informing the best use of funds to invest in improving public transport and urban renewal opportunities for residents, businesses and the broader community.

We will keep you updated throughout the North Western Planning Study and as further information regarding the Port Dock Railway Line and Station Project timing becomes available.

You can stay up to date by visiting: www.ptpa.com.au/projects/nwplanningstudy

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any queries.

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I wonder how pissed off the people who purchased a property in Dock One are now since the project is not going ahead.

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#133 Post by PD2/20 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:41 pm

Bob wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:19 pm
Marshall Govt derails Port Dock railway line

https://indaily.com.au/news/2019/06/20/ ... lway-line/
The project webpage https://ptpa.com.au/projects/port-dock- ... ne-station has just been updated. The project status has been changed from In Design to In Planning.
The page has a summary of the information quoted by Norman.

The original project was awarded to PTPA on a design and build basis? Now there is a planning study contract! :( :?:

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#134 Post by Llessur2002 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:57 pm

Progressing through these has identified potential opportunities to further improve public transport services and connectivity for Port Adelaide and more broadly, the north western suburbs.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that these 'improvements' will involve a shitty bus service.

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[PRO] Re: Port Adelaide Dock Spur Line

#135 Post by ChillyPhilly » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:12 pm

Not a surprising decision. But hugely disappointing though - this was meant to make Dock One and other developments viable.

What a terrible government.
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