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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1006 Post by gnrc_louis » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:03 pm

rev wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:03 pm

Well yeh, Im aware. Im arguing against them having electorate offices and being paid as much as they are, plus having a small army or staffers.

Isnt it astounding that while they maintain that level of extraordinary spending on the tax payers dime, they increase the cost of living on tax payers?

What is used more by the community, Service SA centers which are being cut back or a politicians electorate office?
a) Electoral offices are so members of the public can see their local member (or their staff) easily when they have an issue, they're an important tenant of representative democracy.
b) When in opposition, you usually get one or two staffers if you're a shadow minister. The staffers in electoral officers primarily deal with constituent enquiries. Hardly a "small army"
c) What does the Government's cutting of Service SA centers have to do with someone in the opposition?

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1007 Post by rev » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:59 pm

Wow lol.


Rob Lucas now wants to stop public servants getting a $31 pay rise..to save a whopping $600,000.

Imagine if they cut their own salaries to pre 2015 levels. They'd save a lot more then $600,000. Wonder if he thinks he deserves the pay rise he got, or if politicians should take a pay cut to save money?...

But I won't say too much more, because my legion of fans here will argue Im wrong. :hilarious:

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1008 Post by SBD » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:17 pm

rev wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:59 pm
Wow lol.


Rob Lucas now wants to stop public servants getting a $31 pay rise..to save a whopping $600,000.

Imagine if they cut their own salaries to pre 2015 levels. They'd save a lot more then $600,000. Wonder if he thinks he deserves the pay rise he got, or if politicians should take a pay cut to save money?...

But I won't say too much more, because my legion of fans here will argue Im wrong. :hilarious:
Is that per year, week or day? $600,000/$31 is not quite 20% of the size of the public service, so do you mean a $31/week payrise for every SA public servant would cost the employer $600,000 per weekday?

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1009 Post by rev » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:39 am

SBD wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:17 pm
rev wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:59 pm
Wow lol.


Rob Lucas now wants to stop public servants getting a $31 pay rise..to save a whopping $600,000.

Imagine if they cut their own salaries to pre 2015 levels. They'd save a lot more then $600,000. Wonder if he thinks he deserves the pay rise he got, or if politicians should take a pay cut to save money?...

But I won't say too much more, because my legion of fans here will argue Im wrong. :hilarious:
Is that per year, week or day? $600,000/$31 is not quite 20% of the size of the public service, so do you mean a $31/week payrise for every SA public servant would cost the employer $600,000 per weekday?
$600,000 per year.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 3fac5cef23
Public servants face being stripped of an expected $31 a year pay increase as the State Government urges a court to overturn the modest pay bump and help make Budget savings.

Treasurer Rob Lucas is appealing to the Supreme Court and seeking it to strike down an increase in leave loading for thousands of public servants, including nurses and departmental officers.

He says the rise would cost taxpayers an extra $600,000 per year and can’t be justified as the Government scrambles to fill a Budget hole caused by a GST crash.
The Government is appealing the judgment on grounds that the rise should be held to just 2 per cent, in line with other public sector benefits, and not pegged to a recent decision that lifted national minimum wages by 3.5 per cent.

It comes as the Government also enters broader pay talks with police, teachers and other frontline staff with warnings that tight financial times demand wage restraint.
This from the people who take pay rises from $30,000 on the lower end for back benchers to $60,000 for the premier without blinking or thinking about the states finances.
You work that out, we have 69 politicians who each took a minimum $30,000 pay rise a few years ago. Lucas wants to save $600,000 a year by preventing public servants from receiving an extra $31 a YEAR in leave entitlements. The pay rise the politicians got a few years ago is costing the tax payer over $2 million extra a year.
Has the cost of living gone up by that much that they actually need that money on top of the already huge six figure salaries they receive?

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1010 Post by Norman » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:18 pm

I was under the impression that the pay rise was given in return for a reduction or removal in Minister and Premier pensions and/or retirement entitlements. That's what happened federally a few years ago.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1011 Post by rev » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:15 pm

Norman wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:18 pm
I was under the impression that the pay rise was given in return for a reduction or removal in Minister and Premier pensions and/or retirement entitlements. That's what happened federally a few years ago.
They had travel entitlements cut, worth about $13,000, and got a minimum pay rise three times the amount. From what i read anyway.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1012 Post by SRW » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:15 pm

Just saw this:
7 News Adelaide: South Australia's struggling racing industry has welcomed a $24m rescue package from the state government.

Lol, so public transport cuts, public service cuts, industry cuts, liquor & entertainment industry tax hikes... But an industry that's an ethical disgrace gets $24 million? Guess we know this Liberal government's values. Let the gambling industry step in to save their gift horse, not taxpayers.
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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1013 Post by rev » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:30 pm

The Kiwi PM has rejected a 3% pay rise. It gets recommended by an independent body there as it does here. Our government accepted a similar increase for the end of the year. And of course our state government and opposition accepted a pay rise a few years ago.

This is part of what she said..
"Because we, of course, already are on a high income ... One of the things we've been trying to bridge as a government is the fact that we see these increases at the top end of the scale, without the same increase at the end of the scale where most New Zealanders sit."

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