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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2581 Post by Ho Really » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:32 am

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probably not the thread for it but im skeptical of such immense and quick growth. this happened with Malaysia and indonesia and that didn't end well. Too many people rushed through pilot school to get the numbers up. Hopefully they learn from past mistakes.
It would have more to do with standards and quality of training then how many new pilots graduate, and also the quality and standards within the airlines them selves.
IndiGo will have other issues besides getting quality pilots with the right amount of hours under their belt. They require cabin and ground crews too. So plenty of training all round. Then new airports in India if they all get built. Lastly, the planes they’ve ordered (A321XLR) won’t get them to Melbourne or Sydney, perhaps Perth. London for sure but who will fly the 9.5-10 hours (from Delhi and Mumbai) in a single aisle plane!

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2582 Post by Aidan » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:00 am

Ho Really wrote:Lastly, the planes they’ve ordered (A321XLR) won’t get them to Melbourne or Sydney, perhaps Perth.
How about Adelaide with a Christmas Island fuel stop? That would get the required range down to something that lots of aircraft could manage.

What I don't understand is why the Australia-India market is still being ignored by Garuda despite Jakarta potentially being the best placed hub to serve it?
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2583 Post by Ho Really » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:00 am

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Ho Really wrote:Lastly, the planes they’ve ordered (A321XLR) won’t get them to Melbourne or Sydney, perhaps Perth.
How about Adelaide with a Christmas Island fuel stop? That would get the required range down to something that lots of aircraft could manage.
Then the question is, why not stop in Kuala Lumpur, Singapore or Jakarta? Another question is, does Christmas Island have an airport with the right services for regular stops? Furthermore I think non-stop flights are what most people want.

I doubt very much that IndiGo is buying these planes for Australia but more to destinations that are close like the Arabian Peninsula and South East Asia where they are many Indian expats. If they are serious about London and the UK I think they'd need to invest in twin-aisle variants such as, Airbus A330neo, Airbus A350, Boeing 787 or even Boeing 777X.
What I don't understand is why the Australia-India market is still being ignored by Garuda despite Jakarta potentially being the best placed hub to serve it?
Garuda Indonesia seems to ignore India completely. I think at one stage they had Denpasar-Mumbai. The only way to get there is through another airline with one stop. Garuda codeshares with Singapore Airlines. I assume that includes flights to India where you fly Garuda to Singapore then onto India with Singapore Airlines.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2584 Post by Saltwater » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:57 pm

Garuda have their own problems keeping up with demand out of Jakarta, plus Surubaya and other growing Indonesian ports. As an archipelago Indonesia lends itself very much towards air travel, so stimulating new growth between India and Indonesia is not top priority.

Note also that Singapore airlines subsidiary Tigerair has now been rolled into the Scoot brand. Together they fly from Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and the Gold Coast through to Changi, and then connect on to a dozen or more destinations in India. This is on top of the 4/5 SQ services out of Sydney and Melbourne operated by wide bodies daily.

It would be great to see Scoot expand their service to include Adelaide, while retaining the (at least) daily Singapore A350 services.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2585 Post by Aidan » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:56 pm

Ho Really wrote: Then the question is, why not stop in Kuala Lumpur, Singapore or Jakarta?
Because the're more of a detour, at least for southern India (which is more prosperous than northern India).
Another question is, does Christmas Island have an airport with the right services for regular stops?
Yes (at least according to its Wikipedia page)
Furthermore I think non-stop flights are what most people want.
Non stop flights are what business class passengers prefer. But for most passengers it's having a direct flight (single aircraft, single flight number) that's important. Absence of stops would be unimportant as long as the journey time wasn't too badly affected. Indeed personally I'd prefer the opportunity to stretch my legs!
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2586 Post by rev » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:07 pm

Not sure if this has been posted?
I believe these are the final flights for the Qantas 747's before they are retired.

On 23 November 2019, a Boeing 747-400 aircraft will operate in lieu of the usual Boeing 737-800 service on QF743. The flight departs Sydney Domestic Airport (T3) at 1840hrs (6:40pm AEST) and arrives into Adelaide Airport at 2015hrs (08:15pm ACST). The flight has a scheduled duration of 2hrs and 5mins, but on average the flight should take less than this.

The following day the jumbo will take off on a thirteen hour round trip to Antarctica, taking in various sights over the four hour tour. The sightseeing flight departs early on Sunday morning at 0800hrs (8:00am ACST), and touches back down in Adelaide at 2100hrs (9:00pm ACST).

On the 25 November, the Boeing 747 will head back to Sydney as QF736. The flight will depart just after midday at 1235hrs (12:35pm ACST) and arrives later that day in Sydney at 1500hrs (3:00pm AEST).

Prices start at $160 in Economy and $925 in Business Class, at the time of uploading this article there are 9 classic flight award seats in each cabin starting as low as 12,000 points*^ one way. The Adelaide to Adelaide (Antarctica Scenic Flight) will need to be purchased via antarticaflights.com and prices start from $1,199.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2587 Post by Brucetiki » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:57 am

rev wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:07 pm
Not sure if this has been posted?
I believe these are the final flights for the Qantas 747's before they are retired.

On 23 November 2019, a Boeing 747-400 aircraft will operate in lieu of the usual Boeing 737-800 service on QF743. The flight departs Sydney Domestic Airport (T3) at 1840hrs (6:40pm AEST) and arrives into Adelaide Airport at 2015hrs (08:15pm ACST). The flight has a scheduled duration of 2hrs and 5mins, but on average the flight should take less than this.

The following day the jumbo will take off on a thirteen hour round trip to Antarctica, taking in various sights over the four hour tour. The sightseeing flight departs early on Sunday morning at 0800hrs (8:00am ACST), and touches back down in Adelaide at 2100hrs (9:00pm ACST).

On the 25 November, the Boeing 747 will head back to Sydney as QF736. The flight will depart just after midday at 1235hrs (12:35pm ACST) and arrives later that day in Sydney at 1500hrs (3:00pm AEST).

Prices start at $160 in Economy and $925 in Business Class, at the time of uploading this article there are 9 classic flight award seats in each cabin starting as low as 12,000 points*^ one way. The Adelaide to Adelaide (Antarctica Scenic Flight) will need to be purchased via antarticaflights.com and prices start from $1,199.
Probably the last time a Qantas 747 will be in Adelaide for a scheduled flight but it certainly won't be the last Qantas 747 flight ever. They're slowly being phased out, and will probably be all gone by 2021/22.

Also the $160 seats (and reward seats) are long gone on the flights. The respective flights on the 747 are $329 each way at the moment. Interestingly they're no longer offering seat selection on the flights (which they were initially).

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2588 Post by rev » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:48 pm

Brucetiki wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:57 am
rev wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:07 pm
Not sure if this has been posted?
I believe these are the final flights for the Qantas 747's before they are retired.

On 23 November 2019, a Boeing 747-400 aircraft will operate in lieu of the usual Boeing 737-800 service on QF743. The flight departs Sydney Domestic Airport (T3) at 1840hrs (6:40pm AEST) and arrives into Adelaide Airport at 2015hrs (08:15pm ACST). The flight has a scheduled duration of 2hrs and 5mins, but on average the flight should take less than this.

The following day the jumbo will take off on a thirteen hour round trip to Antarctica, taking in various sights over the four hour tour. The sightseeing flight departs early on Sunday morning at 0800hrs (8:00am ACST), and touches back down in Adelaide at 2100hrs (9:00pm ACST).

On the 25 November, the Boeing 747 will head back to Sydney as QF736. The flight will depart just after midday at 1235hrs (12:35pm ACST) and arrives later that day in Sydney at 1500hrs (3:00pm AEST).

Prices start at $160 in Economy and $925 in Business Class, at the time of uploading this article there are 9 classic flight award seats in each cabin starting as low as 12,000 points*^ one way. The Adelaide to Adelaide (Antarctica Scenic Flight) will need to be purchased via antarticaflights.com and prices start from $1,199.
Probably the last time a Qantas 747 will be in Adelaide for a scheduled flight but it certainly won't be the last Qantas 747 flight ever. They're slowly being phased out, and will probably be all gone by 2021/22.

Also the $160 seats (and reward seats) are long gone on the flights. The respective flights on the 747 are $329 each way at the moment. Interestingly they're no longer offering seat selection on the flights (which they were initially).
I don't know. I was reading something the other day briefly about a fair well tour for the 747 around Australia, can't find the article but I remember something about the end of November. There was something on the AAL site but can't find it on there either, so I'm guessing this QF736 is it.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2589 Post by Brucetiki » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:50 pm

rev wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:48 pm
Brucetiki wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:57 am
rev wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:07 pm
Not sure if this has been posted?
I believe these are the final flights for the Qantas 747's before they are retired.

On 23 November 2019, a Boeing 747-400 aircraft will operate in lieu of the usual Boeing 737-800 service on QF743. The flight departs Sydney Domestic Airport (T3) at 1840hrs (6:40pm AEST) and arrives into Adelaide Airport at 2015hrs (08:15pm ACST). The flight has a scheduled duration of 2hrs and 5mins, but on average the flight should take less than this.

The following day the jumbo will take off on a thirteen hour round trip to Antarctica, taking in various sights over the four hour tour. The sightseeing flight departs early on Sunday morning at 0800hrs (8:00am ACST), and touches back down in Adelaide at 2100hrs (9:00pm ACST).

On the 25 November, the Boeing 747 will head back to Sydney as QF736. The flight will depart just after midday at 1235hrs (12:35pm ACST) and arrives later that day in Sydney at 1500hrs (3:00pm AEST).

Prices start at $160 in Economy and $925 in Business Class, at the time of uploading this article there are 9 classic flight award seats in each cabin starting as low as 12,000 points*^ one way. The Adelaide to Adelaide (Antarctica Scenic Flight) will need to be purchased via antarticaflights.com and prices start from $1,199.
Probably the last time a Qantas 747 will be in Adelaide for a scheduled flight but it certainly won't be the last Qantas 747 flight ever. They're slowly being phased out, and will probably be all gone by 2021/22.

Also the $160 seats (and reward seats) are long gone on the flights. The respective flights on the 747 are $329 each way at the moment. Interestingly they're no longer offering seat selection on the flights (which they were initially).
I don't know. I was reading something the other day briefly about a fair well tour for the 747 around Australia, can't find the article but I remember something about the end of November. There was something on the AAL site but can't find it on there either, so I'm guessing this QF736 is it.
This article states that there are two Sydney-Melbourne runs taking place over the coming months on the 747-400. The 747-400 flights in Adelaide in a few weeks time are not the last ever Qantas 747 flights, and have never been advertised as such.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-in-nw19/

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2590 Post by rev » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:12 pm

Yes, I clarified my earlier post. Fair well tour -/- final flights.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2591 Post by rev » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:41 pm

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2592 Post by Ho Really » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:07 pm

rev wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:07 pm
Not sure if this has been posted?
I believe these are the final flights for the Qantas 747's before they are retired.

On 23 November 2019, a Boeing 747-400 aircraft will operate in lieu of the usual Boeing 737-800 service on QF743. The flight departs Sydney Domestic Airport (T3) at 1840hrs (6:40pm AEST) and arrives into Adelaide Airport at 2015hrs (08:15pm ACST). The flight has a scheduled duration of 2hrs and 5mins, but on average the flight should take less than this.

The following day the jumbo will take off on a thirteen hour round trip to Antarctica, taking in various sights over the four hour tour. The sightseeing flight departs early on Sunday morning at 0800hrs (8:00am ACST), and touches back down in Adelaide at 2100hrs (9:00pm ACST).

On the 25 November, the Boeing 747 will head back to Sydney as QF736. The flight will depart just after midday at 1235hrs (12:35pm ACST) and arrives later that day in Sydney at 1500hrs (3:00pm AEST).

Prices start at $160 in Economy and $925 in Business Class, at the time of uploading this article there are 9 classic flight award seats in each cabin starting as low as 12,000 points*^ one way. The Adelaide to Adelaide (Antarctica Scenic Flight) will need to be purchased via antarticaflights.com and prices start from $1,199.
Anyone have pics of flight QF736? Normally a domestic flight to Sydney on a Boeing 737-800 but today a 747-400 on one of its farewell flights. Perhaps at the teminal and at departure? Also on its arrival couple of days ago before the Antarctic flight?

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2595 Post by cammo » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:13 am

Some of the new vendors for the airport expansion have been announced. I'm not smart enough to post pictures in this forum but they are on the AAL linked in page and here https://www.broadsheet.com.au/adelaide/ ... de-airport

Looks really good.

New vendors include:
- Penfolds Wine Bar & Kitchen
- Maggie Beer Shop
-Jamface by Poh
- Boost Juice
- Soul Origin
- Refurbished Coopers Bar


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