[U/C] 11 Frome Street | 138m | 37 Levels | Crowne Plaza / Adelaidean | New tallest

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[U/C] Re: 11 Frome Street | 138m | 37 Levels | Crowne Plaza / Adelaidean | New tallest

#1546 Post by madelaide » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:21 pm

cmet wrote:
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Someone should update the Wiki to reflect the new height
consider it done

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#1547 Post by cmet » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:00 am

madelaide wrote:
cmet wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:56 pm
Someone should update the Wiki to reflect the new height
consider it done
Haha the moderator already reverted it. I tried editing it a while ago but he keeps changing it back Image


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[U/C] Re: 11 Frome Street | 138m | 37 Levels | Crowne Plaza / Adelaidean | New tallest

#1548 Post by SBD » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:44 am

cmet wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:00 am
madelaide wrote:
cmet wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:56 pm
Someone should update the Wiki to reflect the new height
consider it done
Haha the moderator already reverted it. I tried editing it a while ago but he keeps changing it back Image


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There is no such thing as a moderator on Wikipedia, but it has policies that require sources. It had a reference that said 135m. Is there a public document (not necessarily online, but it helps) that says it is 138m (not just approved to be)? Include the reference in your edit and it will stay.

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[U/C] Re: 11 Frome Street | 138m | 37 Levels | Crowne Plaza / Adelaidean | New tallest

#1549 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:17 pm

This is the appropriate source, but it doesn't specify the height. You could back this up with a press release.

https://www.saplanningportal.sa.gov.au/public_register
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#1550 Post by SBD » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:18 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:17 pm
This is the appropriate source, but it doesn't specify the height. You could back this up with a press release.

https://www.saplanningportal.sa.gov.au/public_register
https://invest.cityofadelaide.com.au/bl ... -building/ and https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 577a87062e say it topped out at 135m. These would be suitable references for WIkipedia to stick with 135m until something else comes out. Is there a 138m press release somewhere?

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#1551 Post by cmet » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:25 pm

SBD wrote:
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:17 pm
This is the appropriate source, but it doesn't specify the height. You could back this up with a press release.

https://www.saplanningportal.sa.gov.au/public_register
https://invest.cityofadelaide.com.au/bl ... -building/ and https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 577a87062e say it topped out at 135m. These would be suitable references for WIkipedia to stick with 135m until something else comes out. Is there a 138m press release somewhere?
They posted it on their insta and I know there was development applications that stated an increased height, but i don’t know.

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[U/C] Re: 11 Frome Street | 138m | 37 Levels | Crowne Plaza / Adelaidean | New tallest

#1552 Post by SBD » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:37 pm

cmet wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:25 pm
SBD wrote:
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:17 pm
This is the appropriate source, but it doesn't specify the height. You could back this up with a press release.

https://www.saplanningportal.sa.gov.au/public_register
https://invest.cityofadelaide.com.au/bl ... -building/ and https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 577a87062e say it topped out at 135m. These would be suitable references for WIkipedia to stick with 135m until something else comes out. Is there a 138m press release somewhere?
They posted it on their insta and I know there was development applications that stated an increased height, but i don’t know.
That's why it's not on WIkipedia as 138m - it's in the developer's interest to claim it to be as tall as they can. Wikipedia needs some kind of independent reporting.

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#1553 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:04 pm

Wikipedia policy is to use only what sources say.

You can add a section to the article's Talk page for registered users to see, so that way the edit could be honoured.
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#1554 Post by SBD » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:08 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:04 pm
Wikipedia policy is to use only what sources say.

You can add a section to the article's Talk page for registered users to see, so that way the edit could be honoured.
While we are talking of that WIkipedia page, does anyone know of a source for the height (then and now) of the former ETSA building on Greenhill Road? There's been an unanswered question on the talk page for over a year.

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#1555 Post by timtam20292 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:51 pm

Lets move this to the beer garden, thanks.

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#1556 Post by SRW » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:00 pm

Will have a Japanese restaurant on level 10: https://invest.cityofadelaide.com.au/bl ... wne-plaza/
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#1557 Post by EBG » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:31 am

SBD wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:08 pm
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:04 pm
Wikipedia policy is to use only what sources say.

You can add a section to the article's Talk page for registered users to see, so that way the edit could be honoured.
While we are talking of that WIkipedia page, does anyone know of a source for the height (then and now) of the former ETSA building on Greenhill Road? There's been an unanswered question on the talk page for over a year.
The former ETSA building was built as 2 separate buildings. The front section as built contained only open space offices plus a stair well each end. The rear contained all lifts, air con, toilets and other services. The 2 separate building were connected by glassed in walkways . There was also a live in care takers apartment on the top floor at the rear.

The former ETSA building as built was 172 feet (52.4m) . This was at the rear which was 13 stories at approx. 13 feet per floor. The ground floor was slightly taller. The front facing Greenhill Rd was only 11 stories. When it was rebuilt as apartments, they simply added 2 more stories to the front section. There is however, one single wall (running north -south) as well on the font section but this serves no useful function and is just an architectural feature. Hence the front could be classified as being 56.4m.

There was also a separate service station on a separate tittle to service about 100 ETSA cars.

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#1558 Post by Ben » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:26 pm

Sorry about the poor quality. There is Crowne plaza signage in the roof now. They still have not fixed the neon strip and it looks terrible. It’s been months now so I’m not confident they’re going to.
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#1559 Post by SRW » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:45 pm

That's excessively bright.

Or, at least, it comes across as such while the rest of the building remains dark. Perhaps it'll appear more moderate once the levels below fill and light up.
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#1560 Post by EBG » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:51 pm

As Ben wrote, there is now crown plaza signage at the roof top level, view from west side .Please click on picture for bigger.
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