News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#781 Post by SBD » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:35 pm

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Very promising looking expansion. It's early stages yet and I don't see how the Go Zone expansion can occur when we hear of bus drivers getting laid off?

I'd like to see the squiggly routes straightened out and better cross town connectivity. It's hard to move about the suburbs without travelling through the CBD. Fortunately, the main suburban centres of Adelaide make up something like a square that could be connected with one circular route. For example, a route that goes from Modbury -> Port Adelaide -> Airport -> Glenelg -> Glen Osmond -> Norwood -> Klemzig interchange, then O-Bahn -> Modbury. This would be a huge loop, about 70 km long, but it would cover the majority of cross town journeys in Adelaide.
Thirty years ago, there were dedicated buses painted bright orange running the "circle line" route, in both directions. I think it was route 100, going roughly Cross Road, Portrush Road, Hampstead Road, Regency Road, Marion Road. It looks like route 100 currently does the west and south parts of that loop. Route 300 is a full loop, a bit further out but also using Portrush and part of Cross Road, and intersecting route 100 at Arndale and Glen Osmond.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#782 Post by ginzahikari » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:03 pm

I think there are big gaps in the map meaning that a lot of cross-suburban routes are not covered by the Go Zone. Major roads which don't direct to the CBD including a huge chunk of Tapleys Hill Rd, Portrush Rd and Regency Rd are all omitted from the map. Would love to see more suburban routes, in particular the 300 to be straightened at certain sections like West Beach and potentially separated into multiple shorter routes as well (probs a reason why it's late all the time?)

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#783 Post by SBD » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:49 pm

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I think there are big gaps in the map meaning that a lot of cross-suburban routes are not covered by the Go Zone. Major roads which don't direct to the CBD including a huge chunk of Tapleys Hill Rd, Portrush Rd and Regency Rd are all omitted from the map. Would love to see more suburban routes, in particular the 300 to be straightened at certain sections like West Beach and potentially separated into multiple shorter routes as well (probs a reason why it's late all the time?)
Splitting it into sections defeats its purpose, unless there are stops that routinely have zero passengers passing them. It's OK, perhaps even better if those natural split points turn out to be significant in terms of passengers joining or leaving the route there (such as the railway crossings), but defeat the purpose if the reason people use that route is because it is the only one that doesn't require changing vehicle between their start and finish points.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#784 Post by OlympusAnt » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:32 pm

There needs to be more routes that go straight through the city on say Wakefield Rd towards the airport, only making a few stops.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#785 Post by adelaide transport » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:27 pm

That would be a waste of time,buses etc as we already have J!,J1A,J2 and J1X providing more than adequate services to and from the Airport without there being much demand for public buses.
With very few International flights over next few months or more plus Qantas(60%) and Virgin(50%) and similar cut backs for Jetstar and Tiger ,there will be very little demand for these services.
In fact I would go as far as to say the J1X service should be suspended during this time.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#786 Post by OlympusAnt » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:37 pm

Sorry I should have said westbound in general, not the airport :wink:

and yes the airport bus should cease
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#787 Post by NTRabbit » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:25 pm

Nothing for the South East though, as per usual

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#788 Post by PeFe » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:05 am

Parliamentary report regarding details of bus contracts plus most interestingly, proposed route changes.

These are in the Scenario 2 section. Quite radical changes to the numbering system.

Outer North Contract Area – Scenario 2
(routes and route numbers subject to change following community consultation
process)
222 Mawson – Main North Rd - City
N222 Elizabeth – Main North Rd - City
229 Para Hills – Main North Rd - Gepps Cross
404 Salisbury – Whites Rd - Paralowie – Anti Clockwise Loop
405 Salisbury – Whites Rd - Paralowie – Clockwise Loop
411 Salisbury – Liberator Dr – Mawson
415 Salisbury – Target Hill Rd - Golden Grove
421 Salisbury – Salisbury Hwy -– BAE Systems
430 Elizabeth – Blackburn Rd - Salisbury
440 Smithfield - Woodford Rd – Elizabeth
441 Elizabeth – Somerset Grove – Smithfield
442 Smithfield – Uley Rd – Elizabeth
443 Smithfield – Craigmore Rd - Elizabeth
493 Gawler – Tambelin – Gawler: Circuit
494 Gawler – Tambelin – Gawler: Circuit
900 Salisbury – Virginia - Mawson
566 Golden Grove – UniSA Mawson – Golden Grove
400 Salisbury – Kelsey Rd - Bolivar Rd
401 Salisbury – Springbank Blvd – Bolivar Rd
TT13 Elizabeth – John Rice Ave - Salisbury
TT14 Salisbury – Nelson Rd - Mawson
TT15 Mawson – Main North Rd - Elizabeth
TT16 Elizabeth – Mawson – Tea Tree Plaza
451 Munno Para – President Ave - Elizabrth
452 Munno Para –Peachey Rd - Elizabeth
461 Munno Para – Stebonheath Rd - Munno Para West
462 Munno Para – Curtis Rd - Angle Vale
906 Gawler On Demand

Outer South Contract Area – Scenario 2
(routes and route numbers subject to change following community consultation
process)
19 City – South Road – Marion Shopping Centre – Hallett Cove Beach Station
20 City – South Road – Marion Shopping Centre – Hallett Cove – Old Reynella
Interchange
21 City – South Road – Old Reynella Interchange – Main South Road – Noarlunga
Centre
21L City – South Road – Old Reynella Interchange – Main South Road – Noarlunga
Centre LIMITED STOP SERVICE
21X City – South Road – Southern Expressway – Old Reynella Interchange – Main
South Road – Noarlunga Centre EXPRESS SERVICE
N21 City – South Road – Marion Shopping Centre – Old Reynella Interchange –
Main South Road – Colonnades – Seaford Centre (After Midnight)
22 City – South Road – Old Reynella Interchange – States Road – Hackham –
Noarlunga Centre
22L City – South Road – Old Reynella Interchange – States Road – Hackham –
Noarlunga Centre LIMITED STOP SERVICE
22X City – South Road – Southern Expressway – Woodcroft – Hackham EXPRESS
SERVICE
23 Old Reynella Interchange – Woodcroft – Flaxmill Road – Colonnades Centre
24 Old Reynella Interchange – Lonsdale – O’Sullivan Beach – Colonnades Centre
25 Oaklands Station – Marion Shopping Centre – O’Halloran Hill – Old Reynella
Interchange – Sherriffs Road – Noarlunga Centre
26 Old Reynella Interchange – Reynella East – Aberfoyle Hub – Hillsview Village
27 Old Reynella Interchange – Reynell Road – Aberfoyle Hub – Chandlers Hill
681 Hallett Cove Station – Hallett Cove North – Hallett Cove Shopping Centre

682 Hallett Cove Station – Hallett Cove Shopping Centre – Sheidow Park – Hallett
Cove Shopping Centre – Hallett Cove Station
683 Hallett Cove Beach Station – Hallett Cove South
743 Noarlunga Centre – Hackham East – Hackham West – Hackham East –
Noarlunga Centre
745 Colonnades –Port Noarlunga South – Seaford Interchange – Seaford Rise –
Seaford Interchange – Port Noarlunga South – Colonnades
746 Colonnades – Old Noarlunga – Seaford Interchange – Moana – Seaford
Interchange – Old Noarlunga – Colonnades
749 Colonnades – Commercial Road – Seaford Interchange – Aldinga Shopping
Centre
749M Colonnades – Commercial Road – Seaford Interchange – Maslin Beach
750 Colonnades – Commercial Road – Seaford Interchange – Aldinga Shopping
Centre – Sellicks Beach
751 Seaford Centre – Seaford Interchange – McLaren Vale – Willunga – Aldinga
Shopping Centre


Outer North East Contract Area – Scenario 2 Option 1
(routes and route numbers subject to change following community consultation
process)
1 Golden Grove – City – Airport
2 Golden Grove – City – Marion
3 Golden Grove – City – Goodwood Rd – Marion
4 Salisbury – City – West Lakes
6 Northgate – City – West Lakes
8X Firle – Paradise – City
14X Newton – Paradise – City
52 Fairview Park – Tea tree Plaza – City
53 Surrey Downs – Tea Tree Plaza – City
54 Mawson Station – Paradise – City
55 Tea Tree Plaza – Kelly Rd - Paradise – City
56 Tea tree Plaza – Lower North East Rd – Paradise – City
57 Tea Tree Plaza – Perseverance Rd – Paradise – City


Outer North East Contract Area – Scenario 2 Option 2
(routes and route numbers subject to change following community consultation
process)
1 Golden Grove – City – Airport
2 Golden Grove – City – Marion
3 Golden Grove – City – Goodwood Rd – Marion
4 Salisbury – City – West Lakes
6 Northgate – City – West Lakes
8X Firle – Paradise – City
14X Newton – Paradise – City
52 Fairview Park – Tea tree Plaza – City
53 Surrey Downs – Tea Tree Plaza – City
54 Mawson Station – Paradise – City
55 Tea Tree Plaza – Kelly Rd - Paradise – City
56 Tea tree Plaza – Lower North East Rd – Paradise – City
57 Tea Tree Plaza – Perseverance Rd – Paradise – City


East West Contract Area – Scenario 2 Option 1
(routes and route numbers subject to change following community consultation
process)
5 Tea Tree Plaza – City – Marion
7 Paradise – City – West Lakes
8 Paradise – City – Marion
9 Magill – City – Glenelg
10 Port Adelaide – City – Burnside
11 Paradise – City – Kilburn
13 Paradise – City – Mitcham
14 Paradise – City – Kingswood
19 Rostrevor – City – Henley Beach
51 Tea Tree Plaza – Port Adelaide
59 Port Adelaide – Arndale – Regency Park
60 Port Adelaide – West Lakes – Airport
60C Glenelg – City
61 Port Adelaide – West Lakes
62 Glenelg – Hawthorn
98 City Connector – North Adelaide – Victoria Square
909 Outer Harbor / Largs Bay On Demand


East West Contract Area – Scenario 2 Option 2
(routes and route numbers subject to change following community consultation
process)
5 Tea Tree Plaza – City – Marion
7 Paradise – City – West Lakes
8 Paradise – City – Marion
9 Magill – City – Glenelg
10 Port Adelaide – City – Burnside
11 Paradise – City – Kilburn
13 Paradise – City – Mitcham
14 Paradise – City – Kingswood
19 Rostrevor – City – Henley Beach
51 Tea Tree Plaza – Port Adelaide
59 Port Adelaide – Arndale – Regency Park
60 Port Adelaide – West Lakes – Airport
60C Glenelg – City
61 Port Adelaide – West Lakes
62 Glenelg – Hawthorn
98 City Connector – North Adelaide – Victoria Square
909 Outer Harbor / Largs Bay On Demand


North South Contract Area – Scenario 2
(routes and route numbers subject to change following community consultation
process)
12 Marion – City – Marden
15 Blair Athol – City – Mitcham
16 Port Adelaide – City – Marion
16X Port Adelaide - City
17 Port Adelaide – City – Panorama
18 Tea tree Plaza – City – Beaumont
30 Elizabeth – Golden Grove
50 Suburban Connector – Arndale – Airport – Glenelg – Marion – Flinders – Klemzig
58 Arndale – Mansfield Park
63 Marion – Brighton – Glenelg
64 Aberfoyle Hub – Marion
64X Aberfoyle Hub – Flinders
65 Marion – Blackwood – Aberfoyle Hub
66 Marion – Aberfoyle Hub
903 Blackwood On Demand
908 Seaview Downs/Seacombe Heights – Marion On Demand


Download the report here : type 25-03-20 in the date column, hit search, download from electronic version

https://www.parliament.sa.gov.au/House- ... -Petitions

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#789 Post by ginzahikari » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:29 am

Maybe we can make a Google Mymap to speculate how this is going to look like?

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#790 Post by PeFe » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:07 pm

ginzahikari wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:29 am
Maybe we can make a Google Mymap to speculate how this is going to look like?
Great idea.....if you have the time and the skills.

Also some routes look new, with destinations but no exact pathway.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#791 Post by adelaide transport » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:11 pm

Lots of routes will disappear. Other routes will be dramatically changed. Also quite a few through routing changes. Total new Route numbers for majority of routes.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#792 Post by ChillyPhilly » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:49 pm

On Demand, gross.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#793 Post by adelaide transport » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:20 pm

Port Adeliade-Largs-North Haven-Outer Harbour will also have an On-Demand Service.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#794 Post by PeFe » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:47 pm

adelaide transport wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:20 pm
Port Adeliade-Largs-North Haven-Outer Harbour will also have an On-Demand Service.
Thats not surprising that on-demand bus services are increasing in Adelaide.

Given large amounts of the Adelaide metropolitan area is really low density I think we will see more in the future.

And I have a question for those in the industry/or more knowledgeable than me.......How does Adelaide Metro the destinations of passengers? given that Metro Card is merely an indication of entering the transport system, with no electronic destination data?

Off course a tap on/ tap off system would provide the information instantly.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#795 Post by Norman » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:45 pm

PeFe wrote:
adelaide transport wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:20 pm
Port Adeliade-Largs-North Haven-Outer Harbour will also have an On-Demand Service.
Thats not surprising that on-demand bus services are increasing in Adelaide.

Given large amounts of the Adelaide metropolitan area is really low density I think we will see more in the future.

And I have a question for those in the industry/or more knowledgeable than me.......How does Adelaide Metro the destinations of passengers? given that Metro Card is merely an indication of entering the transport system, with no electronic destination data?

Off course a tap on/ tap off system would provide the information instantly.
They engage private companies to survey the people on the bus about their start and end destinations. I've seen them once or twice in the last few years, including during the tender process.

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