SRW wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:01 pm
rev wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:28 pm
Now they think by opening the flood gates and bringing in 50,000 more foreigners from the third world it will fix things.
We have a skills-based and (rightly) non-discriminatory permanent migration system. Do you think we should be barring people based on where they were born (and 'third world' is such an outdated Cold War concept)? Anyway, the people who come are usually more educated and contribute more in wealth than locals.
The majority of people coming here from these...under developed countries, are not wealthy, and have no higher education. They end up working low paying jobs in Australia. You can see it all around you. Unless you think working for Uber, Mcdonalds or as a cleaner or security guard is a sign of economic success and prosperity.
Why do we need to be importing people to fill skills shortages, when we have high unemployment in this country?
Why isn't more being done to train people in THIS country?
The reality is that we, the tax payers, are footing the bill for resettling these people in Australia. The government wont pay for your new family car, or pay for your non-common medical treatment such as IVF. But if you are a migrant from say Bangladesh, they will, and they are. These facts don't really fit in with the concept that the majority of these people are wealthy and contribute wealth.
But I'd probably agree that most claims of so-called 'skilled shortages' by big business is really just a reluctance to meet the cost of training locals.
Listening to the Business lobbies is like listening to the motoring bodies, they are all motivated by self interest and not necessarily what's the best outcome for the wider community.
mostly non-integradable foreigners.
I assume you mean integrable. Evidence? I think it's clear every wave of immigration this country has seen has made it a richer, better place. [/quote]
Well, what it's seen as (and why), and what the reality is, are two different things, and the reasons are a whole different debate.
What most see is a new Indian restaurant, or a Nepalese festival, great success.
What most don't realize is that we have no need for so many migrants (from anywhere).
We don't have enough jobs for people here now, why are we bringing in hundreds of thousands more? (nationally)
Why do South Aussies leave for Melbourne and Sydney?
Jobs and economic opportunities.
So why wont they address the reasons why people leave....
But I'm not really sure what can be done. Governments tend to suck at picking winners to invest in, and there's little cash left to invest anyway after business taxes are slashed in an effort to be more competitive. I would like to see the government go gung-ho on infrastructure and education so that our economy is as furnished for productivity and innovation as possible.
Well what shouldn't be done is what's being done now.
If there are not enough jobs and opportunities, why are we bringing more people in? Why are they planning on bringing more in?
Sure, it will create a bit of work for tradies, for home builders and some new infrastructure built as new suburbs go up perhaps. And then what?
You can build new houses for all the homeless people we have as well, but they need jobs.
I don't give a shit about Pandas, and care very little for most of the crap both major parties are busy announcing that they will fund if we vote for them. The economy needs greater attention, we need more jobs, industries. Our continent is far from full, we could fit a lot more people, but before we do, we need economic prosperity...JOBS JOBS JOBS.