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at the moment its only 1 lane towards port adelaide over the bridge, will that become 2 lanes?

marbles wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:27 pm

at the moment its only 1 lane towards port adelaide over the bridge, will that become 2 lanes?

Yes:


I think all traffic is using the northern carriageway at present.

One thing I wish they would have considered, in conjunction with the council, is linking the new bikeway on Chief St to be built next year to the Gawler Greenway. Current plans have it only running between Port Rd and Hawker St, but would have been good to continue up the last pit of Chief St and through the "new road connection" dog leg to join the greenway at Ovingham Station.

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:11 pm

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:10 pm

marbles wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:27 pm

at the moment its only 1 lane towards port adelaide over the bridge, will that become 2 lanes?

Yes:

I think all traffic is using the northern carriageway at present.

Until the Hayman/Chief St link is brought into use, the SW corner of the western ramp cannot be constructed over the old Torrens Rd roadway. Work is also continuing on the footpaths on the bridge.

This has probably been asked 20000 times by now. But why is there still an intersection for Churchill/Torrens Rd?

Wouldn't it have been sensible to plan an overpass/underpass? Or did the LNP intentionally leave it out, in order to gain votes via a future election promise?

MT269 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:39 pm

This has probably been asked 20000 times by now. But why is there still an intersection for Churchill/Torrens Rd?

Wouldn't it have been sensible to plan an overpass/underpass? Or did the LNP intentionally leave it out, in order to gain votes via a future election promise?

It's just typical 'underplanning'. Yes, I just coined this term. I'd like to blame the Libs because they never complete infrastructure projects properly and this was a Marshall Government project, but a lack of future vision and general masterplanning is endemic in SA, no matter who is in charge.

Because it wasn't a project to remove the intersection of Torrens & Churchill roads. It was a project to grade separate Torrens road and the train lines.

Yes we know that, but as MT pointed out it was a case of underplanning yet again. An extra $50m could have grade separated the intersection.

Having said that, it only would have been doable unless you deliberately did not provide a right hand turn from Churchill Road onto Torrens Road, given the topography of the area. Traffic turning right from Torrens Road onto Chruchill Road could have gone left and then under the bridge.

Wouldn't having a flyover onto Churchill Rd run completely counter to all the traffic calming measures that have been put in over the past decade, including dropping the road to one lane each way?

Nathan wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:19 pm

Wouldn't having a flyover onto Churchill Rd run completely counter to all the traffic calming measures that have been put in over the past decade, including dropping the road to one lane each way?

It was one lane before, they've just tried making the area look more appealing with landscaping etc. Further north it's two lanes each way, and it should be 2 lanes each way for it's entire length.
For all the 'measures' they've taken, there's still a tonne of cars that turn use it. On top of that they're filling the immediate area along that stretch with apartment buildings which has added even more traffic.

I did not propose a flyover. The road would have gone under the bridge. Learn to read a map.

[Shuz] wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:45 am

I did not propose a flyover. The road would have gone under the bridge. Learn to read a map.

Potayto, potahto.

Chrchill Road is currently an allowed B-double route with turns permitted both ways on and off of Torrens Road. I doubt there would have been space to grade separate the intersection and still support those movements. It would be a separate question of whether they needed to continue to be available.

SBD wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 23, 2022 12:36 pm

Chrchill Road is currently an allowed B-double route with turns permitted both ways on and off of Torrens Road. I doubt there would have been space to grade separate the intersection and still support those movements. It would be a separate question of whether they needed to continue to be available.

If they started the bridge further back towards the Torrens/Park/Fitzroy intersection, and pushed it over the Churchill road intersection. Then on the left of it a right turning lane onto Churchill as Shuz suggested which goes under the bridge, and off of Churchill heading towards North Adelaide a left turning lane going up to the intersection as is currently the case. As well as a left turn lane from the Torrens road bridge onto Churchill road.
That could work.
I'm sure they could upgrade Belford St & Harrison Road as an alternate route to compensate for the loss of a right hand turn from Churchill onto Torrens.
Send Belford under the train line like Rosetta st, I'm sure in the 21st century they could even maintain Exter Terrace across it as well.