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by rubberman
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:19 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

That's not a problem. Most of the Outer Harbor line could be a normal bus only roadway, ie it doesn't need to be an O-Bahn as such to get up to speed. The only section that is likely to have to be guided is the section from Bowden through the new underpass and into Adelaide Railway Station Yard as ...
by rubberman
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:14 am
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

The Northeastern O-Bahn has no level crossings between Park Road and Modbury. To build a busway that doesn't require slowing down to disengage and re-engage the guide wheels would need a lot of level crossing removal work first. I count about six roads and 12 pedestrian level crossings between Adel...
by rubberman
Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:20 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

In my previous comments, I've referred to my opinion that the loss of the Outer Harbor line as heavy rail is only one competent Minister for Transport away. By that I mean a couple of things. First, it has to save money, and I think a busway will do that, certainly when the question of replacing ex...
by rubberman
Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:20 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Where would you envisage the buses running into/through ARS on a dedicated corridor? After Torrens junction I suppose you could theoretically replace the OH lines with a guided busway but where to after that? The only realistic place I can see for buses to drop off and turn around again would be th...
by rubberman
Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

It's worth remembering that at 20km the OH line is half the length of the Seaford and Gawler lines (and will obviously never be extended) so speed isn't necessarily as important an issue as it might be on the longer lines. As a frequent user of the line the overall speed doesn't bother me at all - ...
by rubberman
Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:38 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Look. I think if you could knock out half the stations and get speeds up to 50kph then you might stand a chance of increasing patronage to a point where it approached the level that makes heavy rail worth while. But the political fallout from eliminating those stations and having people transfer is...
by rubberman
Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:32 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

I'd anticipate that the required gradient for a tunnel under the Torrens from Park Terrace would be too steep. If the OH line were to be converted to a busway, then it'd be physically easier and far cheaper to run a track through the Parklands to join up with Currie Street. The OH/Grange line has o...
by rubberman
Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:52 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

The reason it keeps coming up is because the economics and speed of heavy rail on that line are very poor. It's only politics that keeps them there. In this case specifically, the ALP wouldn't cross the rail unions, and the Liberals aren't that focused on public transport. However, the end of heavy...
by rubberman
Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:21 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Yes. I know it sounds harsh, but the Outer Harbour line barely averages 35kph, and almost never gets over 60kph. Replacing it with an O-Bahn or busway would probably cut five minutes off travel time and be way less expensive. Add to that, the extra flexibility of buses being able to branch off at v...
by rubberman
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:52 am
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

I think it will probably end up a combination of the worse aspects of both. Marginal if any speed improvement, some minor tinkering with stations, with maybe 1 or 2 closures if that.. and some extra car parking. Outcome ... same system with new trains and a completely wasted oportunities just like ...
by rubberman
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:36 am
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

I think it will probably end up a combination of the worse aspects of both. Marginal if any speed improvement, some minor tinkering with stations, with maybe 1 or 2 closures if that.. and some extra car parking. Outcome ... same system with new trains and a completely wasted oportunities just like ...
by rubberman
Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

I think it will probably end up a combination of the worse aspects of both. Marginal if any speed improvement, some minor tinkering with stations, with maybe 1 or 2 closures if that.. and some extra car parking. Outcome ... same system with new trains and a completely wasted oportunities just like ...
by rubberman
Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:22 pm
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

They should have grade seperated Womma and Curtis Roads when electrifying the Gawler make Womma Station an Park and Ride and a simple bus stop for quick transfer, people in Eyre, Davoren Park etc could get off the bus there to get the train rather than Elizabeth. It should have more frequent servic...
by rubberman
Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:21 am
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

It seems to me that the extension to Concordia is rather winding. That means slow. In fact, the whole problem is how slow heavy rail is in Adelaide. People simply will not use slow public transport unless there's no alternative, or they are railfans. The causes of the slowness are well known, with t...
by rubberman
Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:17 am
Forum: Infrastructure/Transport Development
Topic: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains
Replies: 4880
Views: 940232

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

Just a question. Has the possibility of a service as far as Two Wells or Virginia ever been contemplated? With electrification to Gawler complete by the end of this year, maybe, there ought to be the ability to have a very fast service from those stations to the CBD if it just did Two Wells, Virgin...