So 61.6% of Aussies are selfish, hypocritical, morons and/or twats? 100% of states and territories voted yes. 89% of electorates voted yes. That's some interesting maths you have going on there, Matt (and everyone else who is celebrating an "overwhelming majority"). So, 61.6% becomes 89% ...

If someone opts to tick the 'no' box and go to the trouble of sticking it in the post, it's hard to conclude that their view is anything but intolerant of my relationship. These people can throw in as many red herrings or excuses as they like - the crux of it is, that's the *one* question they've b...

This is a question of whether or not to allow same sex couples the right to marry. That’s the question on the ballot, that’s the “debate” we’ve endured for the last few weeks, months, years. Neither the “yes” camp, nor the “no” camp are advocating for the legal right to marry to be removed altogeth...

"Should the law be changed to allow same-sex couples to marry?" Fairly straightforward. I'd say simplistic. It's entirely possible to vote no because you believe no one should have the legal right to marry. That would also result in equal legal rights. In fact, it's exactly what Rev has b...

I have no interest in 'engaging' or 'debating' (either constructively or otherwise) with anyone who believes I should be entitled to less rights than them by virtue of who I love. I'm assuming you mean that there are people on this forum who believe as much. In which case, please quote the exact te...

Let me start with I support gay marriage. But I like to understand the opposite side of any argument. I actually haven't heard this arguement said but I can assume the people that are against gay marriage are against it because they find it obscene. ... ... ... There is a line somewhere for obscene...

A few additional points... * A re-opening of the insulation program wouldn't result in any more houses being insulated, because all the eligible houses (within a specified noise contour) have already been insulated. * While jets are indeed quieter now than in the past, they're still undoubtedly very...

SRW wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:29 am

Not no; why? ...

Nort wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:38 am

I for one can understand the civil union idea. ...

And there we go. Positive and constructive engagement with an idea. That's what good debate is all about.

We got there in the end. Thank you.

Right-o. So, basically it's a no, no, no, no. I can't for the life of me see how it's a constructive contribution to a debate to be totally and completely inflexible and completely and utterly unwilling to even consider the merits of a conciliatory suggestion. Not to mention, such a closed minded at...

Mono, we get all that. I think only the hard-core religious would argue that 'marriage' belongs exclusively to religion. The point is that it's a potential compromise. I don't understand why you or anyone else in the yes camp would be unwilling to even consider a potential compromise to what is turn...

So, change the definition of marriage then? Essentially, remove the fact of marriage having a legal/codified definition at all. It's just an idea -- and not mine. It sounds somewhat reasonable to me, but I'm not particularly in tune with the no camp apart from the 'equality' mantra. Do you :) or :(...

I'm generally only bigoted towards the more bigoted religious groups. It seems fair. Along with 'extreme/militant left/right', the word 'bigoted' is definitely being over-used in recent times. This employer even thinks it's tantamount to 'hate speech' to suggest people should vote no... http://www....

It sure does, mate. And that's why I'm advocating civility and respect on both sides of the debate. So, what are the options? Same-sex marriage remains illegal, thus imposing "their rules" on everyone. Or same-sex marriage is legalised, thus imposing others' beliefs on those who don't beli...

For the life of me, I will never understand how a stick figure can be perceived as being either male or female. It's a STICK FIGURE, for crying out loud. It represents a PERSON. If you can get offended about that, I reckon you'd find a way to get offended about the sun coming up. It's absolutely no ...

I think the biggest shame is the overhead ramp (to departures) will never exist again. I still can't understand the logic. Isn't it worse to combine travellers from both arrivals & departures in the same area? And what's to stop a terrorist driving in a bomb there? Do you know if other airports...