Ideas on how to attract more people to SA?

[Aidan]

I notice in the US it's more common for students to attend uni's in other states or regions to specialise in their subject choice.
By specialising and investing in the right science/hi-tech testing, research/medicine, instruments and equipment Adelaide could become a centre for study, research and testing, spinning of many small hi- tech businesses.

WA and South Africa are the joint homes for the new SKA square kilometre array telescope which will probably draw people with bright brains from all around the world, I believe it's nerve centre will be based in the UK but would an Adelaide based super computer create some opportunities?

Perhaps the old police depot on port road next to our new hospital, or over the city rail tracks would be a logical location.

I don't think that's a suitable use for space in the Parklands.

I also think you misunderstand the nature of supercomputers. They've been commoditized. You can buy your own and have it delivered, or just buy time on one and access it over the internet. Either way they're no longer the enormous drawcard they once were. And of course they lose half their value every 18 months.

If we don't have carbon dating facilities it's probably because there's so little demand for them that it works out cheaper to send samples overseas. And where we send stuff overseas for genetic testing, it's likely to be because an overseas company has a patent on a particular genetic test.

Aside from those examples though, what you're describing is to some extent already happening. But demand has a much bigger influence on supply location than supply has on demand location.

[Waewick]

I just had a thought.

With all this worry about job losses. How about we do two things in sa.

Setup australias biggest language school, which is mandatory for years 1-12 but also as avaliable to then unemployed.

What we then do is focus on provide the country with job ready multi or bi lingual workers. We can then also look at trying to win service contracts that involve multi language contact.

Lets connect with Asia properly.

[Dog]

I notice in the US it's more common for students to attend uni's in other states or regions to specialise in their subject choice.
By specialising and investing in the right science/hi-tech testing, research/medicine, instruments and equipment Adelaide could become a centre for study, research and testing, spinning of many small hi- tech businesses.

WA and South Africa are the joint homes for the new SKA square kilometre array telescope which will probably draw people with bright brains from all around the world, I believe it's nerve centre will be based in the UK but would an Adelaide based super computer create some opportunities?

Perhaps the old police depot on port road next to our new hospital, or over the city rail tracks would be a logical location.

I don't think that's a suitable use for space in the Parklands.

I also think you misunderstand the nature of supercomputers. They've been commoditized. You can buy your own and have it delivered, or just buy time on one and access it over the internet. Either way they're no longer the enormous drawcard they once were. And of course they lose half their value every 18 months.

If we don't have carbon dating facilities it's probably because there's so little demand for them that it works out cheaper to send samples overseas. And where we send stuff overseas for genetic testing, it's likely to be because an overseas company has a patent on a particular genetic test.

Aside from those examples though, what you're describing is to some extent already happening. But demand has a much bigger influence on supply location than supply has on demand location.

To be honest Aidan I am not really bothered where we build extra educational and research capacity but just thought it may add to our new medical research precinct. At least covering the rail yards would remove a eyesore and link the city with the river. But CBD would be good as well.

As for Super computer v other scientific equipment I am obviously no expert, just know we are in the fastest growing region in the world and if testing, research, and analyst is current being sent to the US of Europe there must be an opportunity with rapidly growing Asia on our doorstep.


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[Aidan]

I just had a thought.

With all this worry about job losses. How about we do two things in sa.

Setup australias biggest language school, which is mandatory for years 1-12 but also as avaliable to then unemployed.

The way you've phrased that it looks like you're suggesting all school students must come to it rather than delivering the service where it's needed!

What we then do is focus on provide the country with job ready multi or bi lingual workers. We can then also look at trying to win service contracts that involve multi language contact.

Lets connect with Asia properly.

Do we actually have a shortage of workers who can speak Asian languages? I thought we'd used immigration to solve that problem.

There is obviously a problem with the way languages are taught in schools - most people lose interest. I think it would be better for everyone to learn the basics of ten languages (one per year). People would have the opportunity to revisit them in the later years of high school, though I doubt many would want to in year 12.

[Waewick]

I just had a thought.

With all this worry about job losses. How about we do two things in sa.

Setup australias biggest language school, which is mandatory for years 1-12 but also as avaliable to then unemployed.

The way you've phrased that it looks like you're suggesting all school students must come to it rather than delivering the service where it's needed!

What we then do is focus on provide the country with job ready multi or bi lingual workers. We can then also look at trying to win service contracts that involve multi language contact.

Lets connect with Asia properly.

Do we actually have a shortage of workers who can speak Asian languages? I thought we'd used immigration to solve that problem.

There is obviously a problem with the way languages are taught in schools - most people lose interest. I think it would be better for everyone to learn the basics of ten languages (one per year). People would have the opportunity to revisit them in the later years of high school, though I doubt many would want to in year 12.

On the first point, no it would be integrated into the schools, but available for others.

I think Australia has been fair to weak on teaching languages, It isn't about having a shortage now, it is about developing industries that rely on being bilingual - imagine how improved our trading with Indonesia could be (for instance) if the bulk of the state spoke Indonesian?

I am talking about creating industries and creating opportunities that rely on knowing a the language, making SA a smart state and not just another state in Australia that want to talk about Asia but don't actually want to do anything about it.

[Waewick]

Got another thought.

Could SA improve the travel experience from Adelaide to Melbourne/Sydney AND the ability of virtual offices to be setup, to perhaps keep highly educated/skilled people here when their jobs go interstate?

I'm not sure how we do it, but it is something to think about, if we can somehow reduce their commute time or embrace the fact we never see international head quarters here anymore.

[MessiahAndrw]

"How to attract more people to SA?"

Be unique.

We have plenty of unique qualities. Some great destinations like the botanical gardens, central markets. Great urban locations like Glenelg, Rundle Mall, North Terrace. Great festivals such as the largest Christmas pageant in the world, second largest fringe festival in the world.

Diluting our uniqueness down with more suburbs, supermarkets, drive-throughs, highways, etc. does not make us unique - it'll just make us blend in with every other bland suburban city (North America has hundreds of them.)

[Phantom]

Put Pushbutton in charge of tourism! Hahaha! I'm with Messiah, finding our own uniqueness and style is key.

[Matt]

Capitalise on Adelaide's proximity to Melbourne.

Melbourne's "where it's at" - booming population, bags of tourists, and we're a mere (cheap) 45 minute flight away.

Strategise to piggyback on Melbourne and pinch a piece of their pie.


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[Will]

Capitalise on Adelaide's proximity to Melbourne.

Melbourne's "where it's at" - booming population, bags of tourists, and we're a mere (cheap) 45 minute flight away.

Strategise to piggyback on Melbourne and pinch a piece of their pie.


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I disagree mate. I feel such a strategy would turn us into the 'cheap alternative'. I don't think any place on earth has become successful copying/trying to be something else.

[Matt]

Capitalise on Adelaide's proximity to Melbourne.

Melbourne's "where it's at" - booming population, bags of tourists, and we're a mere (cheap) 45 minute flight away.

Strategise to piggyback on Melbourne and pinch a piece of their pie.


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I disagree mate. I feel such a strategy would turn us into the 'cheap alternative'. I don't think any place on earth has become successful copying/trying to be something else.

Not what I meant at all - my point was that the vast majority of international tourists that visit Australia visit Melbourne.
If they're already in Melbourne (a stone's throw away), it could be of benefit to better market Adelaide (as a point of difference) to these people.

Better beaches, better wineries, Kangaroo Island, etc. A completely different experience that's close and cheap to where they're already intending on being.

Perhaps should have worded it better.


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[Aidan]

Not what I meant at all - my point was that the vast majority of international tourists that visit Australia visit Melbourne.

Are you sure about that? I thought Sydney was a much bigger destination for overseas tourists.

[Matt]

I'd suggest that a fair chunk of people (from the UK/Europe especially) that do an Australia trip,
would do Sydney and Melbourne.

Certainly the people that I know of personally have done both.
(I've got friends from here now that are in Melbourne - they've done Brisbane/Sydney/Melbourne).

Rather than splitting hairs, my point was that Melbourne attracts masses of tourists and given how close we are, we should be aiming to better encourage some of them to pop across to Adelaide while they're over.


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[MessiahAndrw]

Melbourne->Adelaide is about 83% the distance of Melbourne->Sydney. It'd be cheaper for the feds to do an Adelaide/Melbourne high speed rail line than Melbourne/Sydney - think of the tourists! (Joking- the ridership would be insignificant for our country's first HSR.)

[[Shuz]]

Im pretty sure the ADL - MEL flight corridor is up there with some of the busiest routes in the world. Any potential HSR would have a fairly significant commuter base. Of course its all just a pipe dream.