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Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:37 pm
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Is the Patawalonga Channel comparably deep/wide/close/calm to do something similar at Glenelg?

Corio Bay opening from Port Philip Bay looks more sheltered than Holdfast Bay off of Gulf St Vincent. I don't know how sheltered the waters need to be for a cruise ship to tie up. Cruise season is not wild weather most of the time.
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Is the Patawalonga Channel comparably deep/wide/close/calm to do something similar at Glenelg?

Corio Bay opening from Port Philip Bay looks more sheltered than Holdfast Bay off of Gulf St Vincent. I don't know how sheltered the waters need to be for a cruise ship to tie up. Cruise season is not wild weather most of the time.
SBD go back to the first page. There's a diagram showing water depths (5m and 10m). To bring cruise ships closer to the shore and into a harbour (as in my concept) or a pier there needs to be some dredging done depending on the kind of cruise ship. Obviously if you want bigger cruise ships with draughts around the 8 metre mark you'll need to dredge to the 10 metre depth. For the QM2 a bit more.

In that Geelong pic, the ship is SILVER SPIRIT pre-March 2018 before she was lengthened by approximately 15 metres. Her draught is 6.6 metres. Alongside both sides of the pier the maintained depth is 8.5 metres allowing ships of 7.9 metre max draught.

As an example, for SILVER SPIRIT to come alongside a pier at Glenelg you'd need a minimum depth of 7.3 metres (10% keel clearance added). An 8 metre channel would be suggested.

Holdfast Bay as you know can be calm in summer but a harbour with breakwaters would be best if you include a 365-day ferry terminal and an extended yacht marina.

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Another important issue, mentioned before, is the pollution caused by ship exhausts. Especially bad on calm days. The pier or harbour needs to have shore power to ships so the fumes can be either cut down to a manageable and safe level or eliminated completely. With ships cutting engines after docking and only starting up just before departure.

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This is what is needed ....... www.yotclub.com.au

So people don't even care the trip has taken three hours or even notice any rough seas as everybody is having so much fun!
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So people don't even care the trip has taken three hours or even notice any rough seas as everybody is having so much fun!
That looks more like a pontoon than a real seafaring yacht. Wouldn't want to bring it here in our waters. Those having fun would end up with the sharks.

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Ho Really wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:43 pm
how good is he wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:14 pm
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So people don't even care the trip has taken three hours or even notice any rough seas as everybody is having so much fun!
That looks more like a pontoon than a real seafaring yacht. Wouldn't want to bring it here in our waters. Those having fun would end up with the sharks.

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It's a trimaran, so with sufficient power in the engines it should be fairly stable at speed. That said, the booking page doesn't include one-way trips between Brisbane and Gold Coast or vice versa. It's positioned in Gold Coast for a bit, then has a few days to get to Brisbane, then a few days when it goes back to Gold Coast.

The four-hour cruises don't appear to leave sheltered waters.
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