News & Discussion: Laneway & Streetscape Projects

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Re: News & Discussion: Laneway & Streetscape Projects

#751 Post by Patrick_27 » Sun May 16, 2021 12:18 am

Mpol02 wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 7:54 pm
Though I agree, if we were to have a picture taken of those boxes in 2015-17 they would look dire. They attracted a lot of rubbish.

The upgrade was so half arsed. We truly need to have a consistent look to our alleys especially the ones connecting the riverbank to market. Same pebble/stone finishing. Proper gardening and seating. The best one is between Currie st and is it Waymouth? I forget it’s name.
Considering how narrow these laneways are, I'm at a loss to understand why they didn't opt for lighter stone finishes (think Bourke Street Mall in Melbourne). Dark stone makes places like Bank Street look gloomy and horrible.

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Re: News & Discussion: Laneway & Streetscape Projects

#752 Post by Joelmark » Sun May 16, 2021 2:41 am

Re: some of the comments above, reading through the City of Adelaide Draft 2021-22 Budget carefully, it seems $2.1 million has been allocated for Nth Terrace this year, and $200,000 for Leigh St (presumably for footpath upgrades). However some of this is reallocated from previous unspent funds. The Market to Riverbank is a major project and has $6.18 million (for Bentham and Pitt Streets). However as we know CofA keep kicking the can down the road - both are several years behind schedule despite the Peppers MediHotel situation.
In terms of general upkeep of Bank St and other lane ways, the only way is to badger them about how shabby they look- if enough people contact them they might take action in terms of litter and the chipped seating.
On general design in the city, five years ago or so, the CofA spent some effort putting together a design manual on how the public realm should be treated in terms of consistency and heritage. We’re lucky in Adelaide to have such beautiful spaces in the south east, south west and North Adelaide where old stone and granite surfaces have been preserved, along with heritage benches, lighting and bollards - little touches that Sydney, Perth and Brisbane mostly dispensed with years ago.
But less well handled are the big commercial thoroughfares of the CBD- Grenfell and Currie Sts are shocking, with no funding in sight. The Nth Terrace / King William St intersection- probably the city’s busiest - is a mismatch of granite, slate, concrete flagstones, and asphalt still not fixed from the tram works. Why only pave the area outside the railway station with granite when the whole area up to Government House needs work?
Renewal SA is doing this I know but another example of a lack of joined up thinking with the council.

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Re: News & Discussion: Laneway & Streetscape Projects

#753 Post by Patrick_27 » Sun May 16, 2021 11:12 pm

Joelmark wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 2:41 am
Re: some of the comments above, reading through the City of Adelaide Draft 2021-22 Budget carefully, it seems $2.1 million has been allocated for Nth Terrace this year, and $200,000 for Leigh St (presumably for footpath upgrades). However some of this is reallocated from previous unspent funds. The Market to Riverbank is a major project and has $6.18 million (for Bentham and Pitt Streets). However as we know CofA keep kicking the can down the road - both are several years behind schedule despite the Peppers MediHotel situation.
In terms of general upkeep of Bank St and other lane ways, the only way is to badger them about how shabby they look- if enough people contact them they might take action in terms of litter and the chipped seating.
On general design in the city, five years ago or so, the CofA spent some effort putting together a design manual on how the public realm should be treated in terms of consistency and heritage. We’re lucky in Adelaide to have such beautiful spaces in the south east, south west and North Adelaide where old stone and granite surfaces have been preserved, along with heritage benches, lighting and bollards - little touches that Sydney, Perth and Brisbane mostly dispensed with years ago.
But less well handled are the big commercial thoroughfares of the CBD- Grenfell and Currie Sts are shocking, with no funding in sight. The Nth Terrace / King William St intersection- probably the city’s busiest - is a mismatch of granite, slate, concrete flagstones, and asphalt still not fixed from the tram works. Why only pave the area outside the railway station with granite when the whole area up to Government House needs work?
Renewal SA is doing this I know but another example of a lack of joined up thinking with the council.
I suspect the lack of works along major transit corridors such as the sections North Terrace that you mention on and the whole of Grenfell/Currie Street(s) are the result of there being no formal process of communication between the ACC and State Government. Whilst these corridors belong to the ACC and any expense of upkeep should be footed by the ACC (provided they aren't just dumped with it but rather than it be agreed upon - Riverbank precinct comes to mind), the state government should be footing a majority sum of any upgrades that come to these corridors. Our public transport system is largely to blame for their poor state, whether it be buses decimating the roads or the excess of pedestrians using the footpaths making it either impossible to clean or replace. I think North Terrace is an easier project that could be completed within a couple of years, this would include the section by Lot 14 (including the southern side), the southern side opposite government house, and then North Terrace all the way down to the RAH.

Once that's done, Grenfell and Currie Street(s) are a must. Aside from the obvious increasing the depth of footpaths, planting and installing amass of trees and street furniture, I think it would be wise to consider a concrete road surface for the designated bus lane and bus stop slip lanes; this is done a lot in Sydney and would ensure the roadway doesn't meld into a ditch with constant bus use during differing weather conditions, it's also brighter than bitumen which would help liven up an otherwise gloomy, sun deprived strip.

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#754 Post by [Shuz] » Mon May 17, 2021 7:29 am

Currie and Grenfell streets should fall under DIT jurisdiction, seeing as the majority of users on that road are Adelaide Metro buses. It's only fair.
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#755 Post by AndyWelsh » Wed May 26, 2021 5:39 pm

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Re: News & Discussion: Laneway & Streetscape Projects

#756 Post by claybro » Thu May 27, 2021 3:41 pm

Great photos Andy thanks.-Cant wait to finally get back and see all the new stuff since I was last there. Cant place where the last photo of the frame trees is though?

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Re: News & Discussion: Laneway & Streetscape Projects

#757 Post by Nort » Thu May 27, 2021 5:28 pm

claybro wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 3:41 pm
Great photos Andy thanks.-Cant wait to finally get back and see all the new stuff since I was last there. Cant place where the last photo of the frame trees is though?
Between Waymouth and Franklin Street, between the Advertiser building and the old GPO.

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