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It was voted down, but for very much the wrong reasons. It's laughable that the ones that voted it down, were the ones that pushed for the compromised dog leg in the first place. Their interest isn't in doing it right, it's in fucking with the project enough that it ends up never happening.

The state government announced funding for it back in 2016. The last thing the project needs is more fear mongering at businesses in the area, veiled as "consultation".
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East-West Bikeway:
At its meeting on 15 December 2020, Council noted the proposed route of the East-West Bikeway along Franklin Street, Flinders Street, Gawler Place, Wakefield Street and Wakefield Road. Click here for more information and to have your say.
Consultation closes 5pm, Friday 19 February 2021.
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Article in the tiser today, seems St Marys, the cathedral and orthodox church have hired a consultant to deliver a report claiming the bikeway is a "major threat to public safety".

Im not sure what parallel universe we ended up in that deems infrastructure to support an active mode of transport for school kids is a bad thing. Welcome to Adelaide.
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mshagg wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:12 am
Article in the tiser today, seems St Marys, the cathedral and orthodox church have hired a consultant to deliver a report claiming the bikeway is a "major threat to public safety".

Im not sure what parallel universe we ended up in that deems infrastructure to support an active mode of transport for school kids is a bad thing. Welcome to Adelaide.
Of course, The Advertiser would air this nonsense too.
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So multi-lane traffic bordering the church and school (both Franklin St and West Tce) is perfectly safe for school children and church go-ers, but a separated bike lane is a major threat? :roll:
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So I'm not a news ltd subscriber, nor will I ever be, but Adelaidenow seems to have an article outing Greg Griffin as the chief a-hole threatening to sue council over the proposed Bikeway.
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mshagg wrote:So I'm not a news ltd subscriber, nor will I ever be, but Adelaidenow seems to have an article outing Greg Griffin as the chief a-hole threatening to sue council over the proposed Bikeway.
What a shock. Not.
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Adelaide City Council threatened with legal action over proposed East-West Bikeway through CBD

Property owners have vowed to take legal action if Adelaide City Council approves a new $5.8m bikeway.

Elected members will hold a special meeting on Tuesday night to discuss two options proposed by staff for the East-West Bikeway through the CBD.

Lawyer Greg Griffin has told the council he will seek court orders to stop the project, which must be approved by the end of this month otherwise it will lose a $3m State Government grant.

Mr Griffin, who operates from a building on Flinders Street, wrote a lengthy letter to the council last Friday on behalf of property owners on Flinders and Franklin streets who will lose up to 180 parking spaces if it goes ahead.

Council planning staff already have changed the route of the bikeway to avoid legal action by the property owners, changing an original proposal to go up Franklin and Flinders streets by creating a dog-leg into Gawler Place and on to Wakefield Street.

They now are seeking approval to either put the bikeway alongside footpaths or in the centre of the road, with physical barriers separating cyclists from other road users.

A bikeway next to footpaths would result in cyclists riding near students attending four schools, parishioners at two churches, passengers at several public bus stops and customers entering various shops, hotels and small businesses.

In his letter, Mr Griffin said the council had ignored resolutions it had made in 2017 to ensure there was widespread community consultation on any proposed bikeway, instead only seeking public feedback for a brief period last month on the likely design, not its overall route.

“We are vehemently opposed to the East-West Bikeway where it concerns any portion of Flinders or Franklin Street,” he said.

“It is obvious to me and my clients that council’s administrative personnel continue to operate without regard to this feedback and the strong and well-considered opinions of their ratepayers and elected members.”

In a report for the meeting, staff said a project team had met with 10 key stakeholders, including primary schools, property owners and churches.

“These stakeholders are generally not supportive of the bikeway along the currently proposed route,” the report said.

“Their concerns include safety and access across the bikeway for children, older people and people living with a disability; loss of carparking or drop-off spaces, in particular at schools and places of worship; and impact of parking controls on clearways.”

The report said there would be further consultation once the council decided on the type of bikeway it wanted to develop, ensuring it was “safe and functional for all street users and can be implemented within the available budget”.

The special council meeting on the bikeway will start at 5pm in the Adelaide Town Hall.
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Property owners will be losing parking spaces? What fucking entitlement to think they own those public roads.
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It'd be nice to hear the peak cycling bodies arguing the East-West case in counterweight to this nonsense.
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SRW wrote:It'd be nice to hear the peak cycling bodies arguing the East-West case in counterweight to this nonsense.
I don’t think they’d really help. I find the cycling bodies have a very narrow view in the types of cyclists they represent and what their needs are. Plus those that already don’t like cyclists aren’t going to be swayed by anything BikeSA has to say.

It needs to be argued from an urban planning angle. The economic benefits, and how even a small modal shift benefits everyone in the city beyond the cyclists using it.
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Nathan wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:53 pm
SRW wrote:It'd be nice to hear the peak cycling bodies arguing the East-West case in counterweight to this nonsense.
It needs to be argued from an urban planning angle. The economic benefits, and how even a small modal shift benefits everyone in the city beyond the cyclists using it.
Yes, that's true. The rational appeal. Everything else gets lost into a cyclists vs motorists shit fight.
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Its actually really sad we have people like this in Adelaide still.



The council should just stop allowing parking on the roads for a few years and see how that goes. Then build the bike path (yes, I get they lose the funding)


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On what grounds could they possibly sue the council for? This is a fairly open and shut case. Council owns the road, they can do what they like with it.
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Greg Griffin helped invent the Crows and was a very unpopular chairman of Adelaide United.

He's not the most loved guy.
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