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Here’s hoping those whispers are true. This was going to be 💩
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I'm pretty neutral re: the design for this one - I don't think its terrible, but certainty nothing overly special. If it has been cancelled though, it means another prominent historical building in the heart of Adelaide potentially sitting empty indefinitely - which is definitely not a good outcome. This happened with the Colonial Mutual Building, 2 King William Street, Electra House and 203 North Tce previously, and Gawler Chambers currently. They become a blight on the city, attracting antisocial behavior and pose potential fire risks. Let's hope whatever is happening, something is built here in the near future.
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gnrc_louis wrote:I'm pretty neutral re: the design for this one - I don't think its terrible, but certainty nothing overly special. If it has been cancelled though, it means another prominent historical building in the heart of Adelaide potentially sitting empty indefinitely - which is definitely not a good outcome. This happened with the Colonial Mutual Building, 2 King William Street, Electra House and 203 North Tce previously, and Gawler Chambers currently. They become a blight on the city, attracting antisocial behavior and pose potential fire risks. Let's hope whatever is happening, something is built here in the near future.
Anti social behavior???
Do people still talk like it's the 50's ?

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citywatcher wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:11 pm
Anti social behavior???
Do people still talk like it's the 50's ?
What is anti-social behaviour?

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Ho Really wrote:
citywatcher wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:11 pm
Anti social behavior???
Do people still talk like it's the 50's ?
What is anti-social behaviour?

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citywatcher wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:25 pm
Ho Really wrote:
citywatcher wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:11 pm
Anti social behavior???
Do people still talk like it's the 50's ?
What is anti-social behaviour?

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It’s relevant because if the building sits undeveloped and empty, it increases the likelihood of antisocial behaviour occurring there. Also, buildings don’t exist in a void, their design can influence people’s behaviour around them.
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gnrc_louis wrote:
citywatcher wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:25 pm
Ho Really wrote:
What is anti-social behaviour?

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It’s relevant because if the building sits undeveloped and empty, it increases the likelihood of antisocial behaviour occurring there. Also, buildings don’t exist in a void, their design can influence people’s behaviour around them.
Bullshit
It's just an empty building
The old Planet site for example has been empty for about 20 years
Care to enlighten us about this anti social behaviour that has occurred around such buildings

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citywatcher wrote:
gnrc_louis wrote:
citywatcher wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:25 pm
Yes I feel so much better now.
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It’s relevant because if the building sits undeveloped and empty, it increases the likelihood of antisocial behaviour occurring there. Also, buildings don’t exist in a void, their design can influence people’s behaviour around them.
Bullshit
It's just an empty building
The old Planet site for example has been empty for about 20 years
Care to enlighten us about this anti social behaviour that has occurred around such buildings

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Would argue more anti social behaviour occurred whilst the Planet was open!
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citywatcher wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:48 pm
Bullshit
It's just an empty building
The old Planet site for example has been empty for about 20 years
Care to enlighten us about this anti social behaviour that has occurred around such buildings.
When a place is well secured and or very hard to enter there shouldn't be any issues. I would assume The Planet site was that.
Former News Ltd building, North Tce — 1996

Squatters were believed to have started a multimillion-dollar fire that gutted the former News Ltd building on North Tce — a fire that forced the evacuation of about 350 guests of the neighbouring Grosvenor Hotel.

Fuelled by old wooden floors and timbers, the fire took nearly an hour and 45 firefighters before it was controlled about 10pm on November 13, 1996.

The building was next door to Newspaper House — itself destroyed by fire in 1968.

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I remember this fire. I took some photos of the firemen from a side street as I wasn't able to get to North Terrace. I had to borrow a camera from a camera shop as I wasn't there officially as a member of the media.

Not saying the GPO will attract these sorts of people but just think if COVID-19 keeps going on and on. Many buildings might go empty if people lose their jobs and their homes. A bit far fetched but a recipe nonetheless for all sorts of anti social behaviour. My :2cents:

Now let's get back on topic...

Bit pissed another development on hold, This won't be ready way into 2022, perhaps even later. I like the external colour. It adds some contrast to that corner. The rest nothing out of the ordinary. Would be good if it was taller though. Hopefully they'll rethink its height (but that's wishful thinking look at the Hyatt in Pirie Street...f**k).

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23 years ago
I'd say this is an extreme example and future possibilities have been tidied up

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Ho Really wrote:
citywatcher wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:48 pm
Bullshit
It's just an empty building
The old Planet site for example has been empty for about 20 years
Care to enlighten us about this anti social behaviour that has occurred around such buildings.
When a place is well secured and or very hard to enter there shouldn't be any issues. I would assume The Planet site was that.
Former News Ltd building, North Tce — 1996

Squatters were believed to have started a multimillion-dollar fire that gutted the former News Ltd building on North Tce — a fire that forced the evacuation of about 350 guests of the neighbouring Grosvenor Hotel.

Fuelled by old wooden floors and timbers, the fire took nearly an hour and 45 firefighters before it was controlled about 10pm on November 13, 1996.

The building was next door to Newspaper House — itself destroyed by fire in 1968.

Image
I remember this fire. I took some photos of the firemen from a side street as I wasn't able to get to North Terrace. I had to borrow a camera from a camera shop as I wasn't there officially as a member of the media.

Not saying the GPO will attract these sorts of people but just think if COVID-19 keeps going on and on. Many buildings might go empty if people lose their jobs and their homes. A bit far fetched but a recipe nonetheless for all sorts of anti social behaviour. My :2cents:

Now let's get back on topic...

Bit pissed another development on hold, This won't be ready way into 2022, perhaps even later. I like the external colour. It adds some contrast to that corner. The rest nothing out of the ordinary. Would be good if it was taller though. Hopefully they'll rethink its height (but that's wishful thinking look at the Hyatt in Pirie Street...f**k).

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Covid has come at the wrong time for Adelaide, just when development was booming here.

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Unlike Citywatcher's whacky reality, Adelaide is not a utopia and squatters do inhabit empty buildings. If you don't believe me, there are literally squatters in the squatters arms and that isnt even in the CBD. It'd be worse in the CBD.

I'd rather this be put on hold and waited out like they did 2008-9 which resulted in some great looking developments in the 2010s boom with stable tenants.
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HiTouch wrote:Unlike Citywatcher's whacky reality, Adelaide is not a utopia and squatters do inhabit empty buildings. If you don't believe me, there are literally squatters in the squatters arms and that isnt even in the CBD. It'd be worse in the CBD.

I'd rather this be put on hold and waited out like they did 2008-9 which resulted in some great looking developments in the 2010s boom with stable tenants.
Contradicted yourself much idiot?
" in the CBD but not in the CBD " and " where it's worse anyway " cos you'd know right?
Whacky reality indeed . Watching too many movies .

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citywatcher wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:25 pm
HiTouch wrote:Unlike Citywatcher's whacky reality, Adelaide is not a utopia and squatters do inhabit empty buildings. If you don't believe me, there are literally squatters in the squatters arms and that isnt even in the CBD. It'd be worse in the CBD.

I'd rather this be put on hold and waited out like they did 2008-9 which resulted in some great looking developments in the 2010s boom with stable tenants.
Contradicted yourself much idiot?
" in the CBD but not in the CBD " and " where it's worse anyway " cos you'd know right?
Whacky reality indeed . Watching too many movies .

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You're the idiot, idiot.

The CBD is a lot worse than the suburbs when it comes to the problem of squatters. Having empty city blocks would do nothing but encourage this anti social behaviour.
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HiTouch wrote:
citywatcher wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:25 pm
HiTouch wrote:Unlike Citywatcher's whacky reality, Adelaide is not a utopia and squatters do inhabit empty buildings. If you don't believe me, there are literally squatters in the squatters arms and that isnt even in the CBD. It'd be worse in the CBD.

I'd rather this be put on hold and waited out like they did 2008-9 which resulted in some great looking developments in the 2010s boom with stable tenants.
Contradicted yourself much idiot?
" in the CBD but not in the CBD " and " where it's worse anyway " cos you'd know right?
Whacky reality indeed . Watching too many movies .

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You're the idiot, idiot.

The CBD is a lot worse than the suburbs when it comes to the problem of squatters. Having empty city blocks would do nothing but encourage this anti social behaviour.
Oh of course it will
You read it on the internet somewhere

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