[PRO] 36 Grote Street | 119m | 33 levels | apartments

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I wonder if this has been cancelled or run into some problems. Nothing has been talked about since the initial application and many other proposals lodged after this have subsequently already been approved.
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Ben wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:39 pm
I wonder if this has been cancelled or run into some problems. Nothing has been talked about since the initial application and many other proposals lodged after this have subsequently already been approved.
These chinese money proposals can all be turned on and off like a tap. It really depends on what the political/regulatory situation is in China. When the rich get scared, they move their money off shore typically through property developments or acquisitions. Gotta spend it or lose it. Not saying this is a bad thing, only to say that it doesn't really go like clockwork.
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I believe there is a sales office on Grote Street, I can confirm tomorrow.
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[PRO] Re: 36 Grote Street | 119m | 33 levels | apartments

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This is going before the SCAP next Wednesday. the building is taller than first thought at 118.6m.

https://www.saplanningcommission.sa.gov ... hments.pdf

In my opinion unfortunately the government architect has got it wrong and has encouraged a dumbing down of the design. I don't know why they have an interest in having all proposals to look the same or similar.

Comments re the changes:
The podium design was amended throughout the course of the assessment, notably by removing the recessed and curved corner form initially proposed, which was the subject of contention with the Government Architect and State Heritage as it was seen to be incongruous to the existing fine grain character and the established characteristics of street corners. The resolution of the podium has since been accepted by both agencies, and is considered to be a positive contribution to the human scale and activation of the Grote Street and Penaluna Place frontages.
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Well the positive aspect is that the first 3 levels aren't garbage
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Algernon wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:37 pm
Well the positive aspect is that the first 3 levels aren't garbage
I actually prefer the brick finish of first few floors in the revised proposal, however not particularly fond of them changing the curvature on the upper levels of the podium. Not sure how that change will benefit the street level?
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Patrick_27 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:12 pm
Algernon wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:37 pm
Well the positive aspect is that the first 3 levels aren't garbage
I actually prefer the brick finish of first few floors in the revised proposal, however not particularly fond of them changing the curvature on the upper levels of the podium. Not sure how that change will benefit the street level?
They're trying to lessen the impact on the Metropolitan by providing a glass frontage with a seemless border on the corner. Very roughly speaking, trying to trick the eye into thinking it's a 3 storey brick building (more sympathetic in scale to the metropolitan), with pretty blue sky above it (the glass). It's technically proficient, straight out of a 1st year architecture textbook and perfectly fits for what a government appointed architect would "think" the design needs. It also looks like complete and utter shit. Plot twist, there's a 30 storey building above it, turns out eyes can see that too. But really proficient.
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I prefer the curve at ground level for something interesting, but I do like the brick of the amended because of how well it will tie into the Central Markets redevelopment across the street.

Love that we can get a proposal like this now that isn't just met with excitement for its height being tall by Adelaide standards. It was only a few years ago that even the rumour of an ~120m tower would have been the most exciting thing going on.

edit: Just did some quick numbers. 5 years ago we had 3 towers over 100m. In another 5 we'll likely have at least 13.
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Let's hope The Advertiser today has it wrong. If this 33 level building is getting built for $25 million then we'd be better off without it.

Hopefully just poor reporting.
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Jaymz wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:36 pm
Let's hope The Advertiser today has it wrong. If this 33 level building is getting built for $25 million then we'd be better off without it.

Hopefully just poor reporting.
Agreed… $25m is a huge concern.
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Can someone with access to the article please actually post it, thanks.
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