Islington | Developments & News

[ChillyPhilly]

Do forgive me for any inaccuracy! The furthest north I've ventured by rail is Elizabeth. I was pretty certain off the top of my head that Broadmeadows was closest to the bulk of Andrews Farm.

Also re: ghetto, it doesn't have to mean a ghetto infested with crime or similar. Just an area that has bred a poor culture.

[Hooligan]

Do forgive me for any inaccuracy! The furthest north I've ventured by rail is Elizabeth. I was pretty certain off the top of my head that Broadmeadows was closest to the bulk of Andrews Farm.

Also re: ghetto, it doesn't have to mean a ghetto infested with crime or similar. Just an area that has bred a poor culture.

You don't need to be forgiven at all because you are right. Broadmeadows is closest to the southern part of Andrews Farm and Smithfield is closest to the northern part of Andrew's Farm.

Munno Para station is practically in another timezone.

[MessiahAndrw]

Good transits systems do something very well - they raise property values around them. A good transit operator will capitalise on this (either by capturing the tax revenue generated by it, or by having a vested interest in the real estate around the transit stops - as is typical in Japan). In the book A Country of Cities: Of Trains, Towers, and Trees, the author says the a city's busiest train station should be it's tallest building, simply because traffic/accessibility is so high that real estate is the most expensive there.

Myer Centre in Brisbane is a great example of this. It's prime real-estate on top of a major bus hub. It's very rare for transit to be funded by fares (I think only a couple of transit systems world wide fully recover all their money through the fare box), instead transit operators (through leasing the surrounding land) and council (through taxes) capturing the increased value the transit station generates, and that justifies operating the system.

Park-and-ride systems are counter-productive - since a transit station should be some of the most valuable land around, and car parks are amongst the least productive things you could possibly build because they generate hardly any taxes, compared virtually anything else that could have been built on that site instead.

Next, if you're actually driving to and parking at station every day, that implies that every day you a) have access to a car, b) are driving it anyway - and if you're already driving, there's little reason you wouldn't want to simply drive the entire way to your destination. Instead, park-and-ride systems give you the worst of both worlds (driving - you're car dependent and need to drive every day, transit - you're on a schedule, limited to where the line goes).

Park-and-ride systems do have a function (an airport is a useful a park-and-ride system). But if you are already driving and have access to a car, there needs to be some incredible benefit to get you to then park your car, and wait for a train. Perhaps the train is faster than driving? (To avoid traffic.) Or is cheaper? (To avoid paying for parking or tolls.) Currently, for middle-ring Adelaide, it's neither. 15 minutes of waiting + 10 minutes on a train (25 minutes total), paying $3.29 there and back ($6.58 total) - you can drive and park just about anywhere in Adelaide cheaper and faster.

Park and ride may work across long distances like Gawler->Adelaide. It doesn't save time (50 minutes to drive vs. 1 hour 10 minutes via train) but I'd choose the train simply because I could do something productive with my time (like work or read). Still, it's a tough argument.

[neoballmon]

On the odd occasion I catch a train, I drive to the Noarlunga station, because it takes no more than ten minutes to get there, and I can get there right before the train does.
Last time I took a bus, I think it took about half an hour (not including walking to the stop) from stepping on the bus to stepping on the train, simply due to the bus weaving through suburbs and a wait for transfer train. So I think Park and rides definitely serve a good purpose, at least a bit further from the city.

And cost wise - my trip to the city is almost 25km. On my tank of petrol, that costs about $5 to get to the city. So the $3.29 is quite appealing here as well.

Travel time is also quite comparable in the peak hours.

[kingy]

A couple of bad pictures from yesterday evening of what I assume is the costco construction.

[crawf]

Sure is. Thanks

[The Scooter Guy]

A new 6 tenancy building (between Bunnings and the railway yards) is being built.








Estimated so far:

Barbecues Galore
Radio Rentals
Lincraft
Ray's Outdoors
Anaconda
Officeworks

[MessiahAndrw]

Is there any news on what's going to happen with the SW corner of Regency and Churchill? It's been sitting vacant forever, and it's on top of a train station (6 min ride to the city every 15 min on weekdays) and I've always thought it'd be a prime spot for apartments.

[rev]

An Autobahn and some Savers or something of that sort store has opened up where those last pictures are.

[rev]

Is there any news on what's going to happen with the SW corner of Regency and Churchill? It's been sitting vacant forever, and it's on top of a train station (6 min ride to the city every 15 min on weekdays) and I've always thought it'd be a prime spot for apartments.

That's a separate site, not sure if the thread still exists for it.

There was a plan for housing on it, and I think a small shopping center.

[The Scooter Guy]

An Autobahn and some Savers or something of that sort store has opened up where those last pictures are.

And a pet food store too!

[jk1237]

the large parcel of land, next to Islington train station, south of Regency Road, was advertised as for sale in todays Advertiser, for residential zoning purposes, so I wonder if its finally been given the all clear from contamination and ready for med density housing