ONH: [Port Adelaide] Newport Quays | $1.2b

[Xaragmata]

Dock One is on sale, with its own branding, web site and sales centre - downplaying any connection with Newport Quays:

http://www.dockone.com.au/home.html

Masterplan

http://www.dockone.com.au/masterplan.html

[Xaragmata]

Dock One site in Todd Street, last week:

[rhino]

I really hope that iron building in your first photo gets renno'd and saved, even if it's just used as a garden/pump shed in a park.

[Xaragmata]

I really hope that iron building in your first photo gets renno'd and saved, even if it's just used as a garden/pump shed in a park.

It is on land marked as proposed future development on the master plan, and was used by an amateur radio group as far as I know. There must be a use
for it if it is saved.

[how_good_is_he]

Have to laugh at Urbans Constructs new sales office here - compared to the first/last one which cost maybe $2m to this one at maybe $20,000 shows how things have changed.... PS anyone know who is the builder engaged to build these? Didn't the last builder for there 2 & 3 storey stuff go broke [Alpine Constructions]? I also would be interested to know if its a house & land contract, if so Urbans would get the money for the land from buyers upfront with progress payments to the builder as it gets built resulting in limited risk and no long wait for $$$ to Urban.

[Will]

Some new images from the Urban Construct website:

[Will]

To add further information, it appears that the next stage of the Port Adelaide redevelopment has been launched.

To be known as Port Approach, it will be mainly Commercial, Industrial and Tourism.

VALUE: $250million
Status: Now Selling
DATE: 2010

http://www.portapproach.com.au

Prime waterfront Commercial & Industrial Land, Port Approach is Adelaide‘s newest, world class business & industry park.
Offering commercial, industrial and tourism opportunities, Port Approach is one of the only waterside business destinations available in Australia.

Absolute waterfront land - the only waterfront commercial and industrial land release in metropolitan Adelaide

• 5 minutes to the thriving Techport Defence Hub, with billions in defence contracts

• Easily accessible, high exposure site (est. 21,000 vehicles per day cross the PREXY. Source: DTEI)

• Allotment areas from 900 - 20,000sqm aprox.

• Parcels can be amalgamated to suit individual requirements

• Purpose designed to suit a variety of users - commercial, industrial, tourism, hi-tech and other clean workshop assembly uses*

info • Links to the new $564m Northern Connector Expressway, Port River

• Expressway (PREXY), and adjacent to freight line, major logistic & distribution operators

• Opportunity for a unique landmark seven storey building, and the remaining allotments height capacities range between 1 to 4 storeys

* STCC and compliance with Urban Design Guidelines.

[Port Adelaide Fan]

Newport report kept hush-hush

A REPORT on the potential environmental impact of the next stage of the Newport Quays development is being kept secret.

The EPA is refusing to release its advice to the Development Assessment Commission on the Dock One site. The DAC also won’t release the assessment.

With 275 two and three-storey townhouses, the Dock One precinct a 3.5ha site bounded by the southern edge of Dock One and Wauwa Rd, St Vincent, Todd and Jubilee streets is expected to bring 500 new residents to the town centre.

Nearby residents, Port Adelaide Enfield Council and a local environment group are demanding to know the EPA’s view on the state of the land and the development’s likely impact on the Port River.

more: http://portside-messenger.whereilive.co ... hush-hush/

[stumpjumper]

Nothing changes.

If developers looked up from their bottom line for a moment and tried to bring the community with them things might go better for all concerned. Instead, we get an almost adversarial situation where the developer tries to outwit the community to impose generic buildings that sold well on the Gold Coast but which have nothing to do with the texture or history of Port Adelaide.

I worked on the redevelopment of the Severn River dockyards in Gloucester in the UK. The first thing the developers did was ask the local community:

'What do you want us to build first?'

The answer was: 'A pub!'

So the development began with a pub. It has been a very successful redevelopment, focussed on adapting existing buildings (unlike our Port - full of warehouses and factory buildings the developers with their single template for making money won't touch.

The development at Gloucester also used the same stone as quarried for the original buildings, same palette of colours etc. That was managed by the Gloucester Architects Department where I worked.

In Port Adelaide, however, the work is declared a Major Project and the Port Adelaide Enfield council is largely left out of the equation.

The result - boring architecture that can be found rubber stamped in ordinary developments around the world. Yet Port Adelaide is (was) no ordinary place. It was probably the world's most intact remaining inner city sailing port.

Imagine what could have been done with a little vision and imagination.



The 'radio hut' on North Parade is the former telegraph office and is on the state heritage list. It can probably be moved; there's precedent for that.

[Will]

The reason why the situation has become the way it is, in my opinion is because in Adelaide, if the community was asked 'What do you want us to build first?'

The answer would usually be: ''nothing!"

[AtD]

Sin bin for Will.

[stumpjumper]

Out of interest, here's an image of the main basin of the Gloucester Docks. Some of the buildings are new, some renovated, but all of them are tenanted and active. The pub is the two level green steel and glazed area to the right of the three tall brick buildings.



I think the reason that SA has a history of failed or half-failed development is that a mix of eager politicians and greedy developers politicise the developments and planning becomes unrealistic and unrelated to the real market demands.

A developer can be as greedy as he likes, but the market is unforgiving and will allow only a certain profit.

However, the benefits to the developer of free land, government guarantees etc, are unlikely to be passed on to the consumer, but will usually be used by the developer as a straight subsidy paid in the form of increased profit while asking normal market prices.

If the developer is highly risk averse or very tight with costs, the chances increase that in addition to not offering buyers a discount related to the free (ie taxpayer owned) land (an unlikely course for the developer), the developer will simply replicate some generic design from elsewhere (as they did at Newport Quays) so that there are no local references in materials or styling.
It might be an idea for the government to seed the project by making a start. In the case of the Port, perhaps the Adelaide Milling Co building (the big red brick building near the Jervois Bridge) could serve as a style, form and colour template for more building.

[yipiyiyo]

Great idea to use Harts Mill as a styling guideline for future develpment of the area.

[stumpjumper]

If only.

[Port Adelaide Fan]

Toxic threat to Port Adelaide exposed by rushed development

THE State Government has admitted there is a risk of explosions at a fertiliser warehouse at Port Adelaide and Newport Quays says the toxic threat outlined in an EPA report has "very significant ramifications" for its multi-billion dollar residential development.

Newport Quays has also raised questions about whether existing residents at Birkenhead should be living right next to the Adelaide Brighton Cement smokestack.

Responding to details of a secret EPA report revealed in The Advertiser this morning, Planning Minister Paul Holloway conceded there was a risk of explosion or fire due to large-scale storage of ammonium nitrate at fertiliser warehouses at Incitec Pivot,

"The material can be dangerous, it has to be properly handled," he told 891 ABC Adelaide.

He also said the Newport Quays project would "stop" if the environmental issues raised by the EPA were not resolved.

Newport Quays developer Urban Construct CEO Todd Brown said the EPA report had "very significant ramifications for a multi-billion dollar project if it remains unresolved."

more: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 5941957665