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I have not seen an explanation of why the Magill Road intersection is disproportionately more expensive than any of the other intersection upgrades, nor has it yet been made public what aspect of the Port Adelaide railway spur was so badly underestimated (or completely missed).Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:08 amSo a $40m price tag is too much for something that has already been promised and there is a lot riding on this project going ahead meanwhile the government have promised $98m for an upgrade of the Magill Road/Port Rush Road intersection which is total funding overkill.
PT project by Labor in Labor working class heart land gets cancelled by Liberals, Liberals announce over priced intersection upgrade in eastern suburbs Liberal heart land that will quite possibly give us something not even the oil rich gulf states have, actual gold plated traffic lights with diamond encrusted signals.SBD wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:55 amI have not seen an explanation of why the Magill Road intersection is disproportionately more expensive than any of the other intersection upgrades, nor has it yet been made public what aspect of the Port Adelaide railway spur was so badly underestimated (or completely missed).Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:08 amSo a $40m price tag is too much for something that has already been promised and there is a lot riding on this project going ahead meanwhile the government have promised $98m for an upgrade of the Magill Road/Port Rush Road intersection which is total funding overkill.
Whoever made that mistake is going to keep quiet about it, whichever organisation they work for. Their boss who signed off on it is unlikely to want to expose them either. There would be a few people, possibly in each of PTP, DPTI and government who have VERY red faces.
just spitballing, but might have something to do with the substation on the corner. I imagine service relocations would be a nightmareSpotto wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:02 pmFigures from the budget quoted by the Premier's website:
[*]Ovingham Crossing (Torrens Road) = $231 million
[*]Hove Crossing (Brighton Road) = $171 million
[*]Portrush/Magill Road intersection = $98 million
[*]Fullarton/Cross Road intersection = $61 million
[*]Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road intersection = $60 million
and announced in March,
[*]Glen Osmond/Fullarton Road intersection = $61 million (50-50 split between feds and state)
How can other focus intersection upgrades be projected to cost under $65m while Portrush/Magill costs around one and a half times that much? What's so special about it verus the other projects will deliver similar results?
I imagine it could make for cheaper staff costs if barriers were erected across the road at the next intersection back in each of the four directions, and work was only done during one shift on weekdays, at standard working hours with no out-of-hours or overtime. The solid barriers mean no lollipop workers required, and it should be done in not much over three times as long. Only working day shift means no hired work lights. Traffic can find an alternate route, or just stay home until the works are over. Lollipop workers are responsible for more than just "stand around".OlympusAnt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:18 pmThat spur line is/was a typical DPTI white elephant that shafted the NRM. No need for 2 stations within 400m of each other and the NRM lost their tracks. They'd already lost enough after the 1995 conversion.
Those intersection costs though - when you've gotta pay those lollypop workers 70 bucks an hour to stand around, no wonder it costs so much. Shouldn't cost 70 mill just to move some bitumen and concrete around.
It's gonna require a decent chunk of property acquisition as well, possibly including commercial properties.Goodsy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:48 pmjust spitballing, but might have something to do with the substation on the corner. I imagine service relocations would be a nightmareSpotto wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:02 pmFigures from the budget quoted by the Premier's website:
[*]Ovingham Crossing (Torrens Road) = $231 million
[*]Hove Crossing (Brighton Road) = $171 million
[*]Portrush/Magill Road intersection = $98 million
[*]Fullarton/Cross Road intersection = $61 million
[*]Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road intersection = $60 million
and announced in March,
[*]Glen Osmond/Fullarton Road intersection = $61 million (50-50 split between feds and state)
How can other focus intersection upgrades be projected to cost under $65m while Portrush/Magill costs around one and a half times that much? What's so special about it verus the other projects will deliver similar results?
They don't get paid $70/hour.OlympusAnt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:18 pmThose intersection costs though - when you've gotta pay those lollypop workers 70 bucks an hour to stand around, no wonder it costs so much.
rev wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:07 amThey don't get paid $70/hour.OlympusAnt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:18 pmThose intersection costs though - when you've gotta pay those lollypop workers 70 bucks an hour to stand around, no wonder it costs so much.
They'd come pretty close to that on weekends. Pretty standard construction award penalty rates are:rev wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:07 amThey don't get paid $70/hour.OlympusAnt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:18 pmThose intersection costs though - when you've gotta pay those lollypop workers 70 bucks an hour to stand around, no wonder it costs so much.