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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2281 Post by Nort » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:36 pm

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2282 Post by fabricator » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:44 pm

BillD wrote:Here are a couple more from stop 6's opening day.

You might notice in these two shots that there is a covered-up apparatus attached to one of the canopy supports in the distance.
It appeared to have blue flashing lights attached and may be a security zone similar to those found on Sydney's underground platforms.
Looks close enough to the emergency intercoms they have installed at some train stations, its basically a direct line to police.
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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2283 Post by BillD » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:46 pm

Thanks Nort, Unfortunately there are only so many hours in a day and yet another forum would be too much for me! Bill.

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2284 Post by drsmith » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:32 am

Xaragmata wrote: They are throw screens, designed to stop rock throwers breaking windscreens ...
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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2285 Post by BillD » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:45 am

The pedestrian / bicycle bridge attached to the overpass is now open.

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2286 Post by skyliner » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:14 pm

Anyone know what the function of the central rail is. (I usually know these kinds of things being a rail fan as well).

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2287 Post by AtD » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:14 pm

In the event of a derailment it's to help prevent the tram from falling off the bridge.

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Re: #COM: Glenelg Tram upgrade: City West, South Rd

#2288 Post by AtD » Sat May 07, 2011 4:49 pm

The first of the next four Flexitys has arrived in Melbourne.

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Re: #COM: Glenelg Tram upgrade: City West, South Rd

#2289 Post by rogue » Sat May 07, 2011 5:38 pm

In todays rag, they reported that the first of four new Flexity's will be lowered onto the tracks near the Ent Cent on Monday morning at something like 0230.

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Re: #COM: Glenelg Tram upgrade: City West, South Rd

#2290 Post by Vee » Sat May 07, 2011 7:01 pm

AtD wrote:The first of the next four Flexitys has arrived in Melbourne.
Thanks for the pic, AtD.
Great to see 4 more trams added to the fleet.

I was hoping that we would get more of the Citadis trams (with more doors for faster passenger loading/unloading) that we got from Spain during the GFC rather than the Flexity trams.

Good to see Mike Rann on the TV news tonight talking up the extension of the tram network from the city - towards the west/north west suburbs.
But Grote St. would be a much better route in the city than the narrow, congested Gouger St. This could also open up the opportunity for an improved (and more visible) entrance to the Central Market on the Grote St. side. The Coles supermarket is so ugly and contributes nothing to the streetscape.

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Re: #COM: Glenelg Tram upgrade: City West, South Rd

#2291 Post by rubberman » Sun May 08, 2011 9:44 pm

Why Citadis?

They are basically single truck cars - just like the bib and bub sets we had in the second world war. Coupled single truck designs are hard on track and require much slower speeds on curves and through pointwork.

Far better designs (such as Skoda) are available, but as we need to standardise as much as possible, the Flexity is a tad better than the Citadis from the pov of wear and tear on track and maintenance of service speed. Single bogie designs such as the Citadis were outmoded in the nineteen thirties, and certainly were only used then because they were required for war service. In actual fact the last new single truckers (before this upgrading) were in the 19-teens with the C class cars. ie a bogie arrangement over a hundred years out of date.

I don't mean this as a complaint, since the Citadis were needed in a hurry, and served a purpose well. And they are nice inside. But they are now about third rank technology as far as the bogies are concerned behind Skoda then Flexity - so, the State Gov't quite rightly has picked a technology that is standard to most of the rest of the cars and also technologically a bit more advanced than the Citadis.

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Re: #COM: Glenelg Tram upgrade: City West, South Rd

#2292 Post by Tonsley213 » Sun May 08, 2011 9:56 pm

Oh I hate the idiots on this site.

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Re: #COM: Glenelg Tram upgrade: City West, South Rd

#2293 Post by Waewick » Mon May 09, 2011 10:16 am

Vee wrote:
AtD wrote:The first of the next four Flexitys has arrived in Melbourne.
Thanks for the pic, AtD.
Great to see 4 more trams added to the fleet.

I was hoping that we would get more of the Citadis trams (with more doors for faster passenger loading/unloading) that we got from Spain during the GFC rather than the Flexity trams.

Good to see Mike Rann on the TV news tonight talking up the extension of the tram network from the city - towards the west/north west suburbs.
But Grote St. would be a much better route in the city than the narrow, congested Gouger St. This could also open up the opportunity for an improved (and more visible) entrance to the Central Market on the Grote St. side. The Coles supermarket is so ugly and contributes nothing to the streetscape.
I see it as the perfect chance to turn Gouger street into a nil or 1 way car street a rely on foot traffic and the tram for that street

it won't work in every street but Gouger has become such a fantastic place to visit I reckon it would improve it imeasurably (well if that is how you spell it)

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Re: #COM: Glenelg Tram upgrade: City West, South Rd

#2294 Post by dsriggs » Mon May 09, 2011 11:12 pm

Tonsley213 wrote:Oh I hate the idiots on this site.
Settle down...

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Re: #COM: Glenelg Tram upgrade: City West, South Rd

#2295 Post by AtD » Tue May 10, 2011 7:44 am

Adelaide's newest tram set to roll
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Adelaide has taken delivery of the first of four new trams from Germany, three years after they were ordered.

The tram arrived at Appleton Dock in Melbourne last Wednesday.

It was then transported to Adelaide and installed on the tracks in Port Road at Hindmarsh in the early hours of Monday.

Transport Department head of public transport services, Rod Hook, says the trams were ordered in 2008, but there had been several delays.

"There were some issues with the construction of them. There were some floods in Germany which impacted the product that was being built and they had to go back and start again," he said.

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