[COM] Adelaide Oval Redevelopment

[AdelaideGold]

Nice intro
http://youtu.be/oUPv1guvnzY

[SuperEgz]

I already posted these photos elsewhere, might as well post them here too! from Facebook and Cricinfo.

[AdelaideGold]

3D fly through and coin toss...
http://youtu.be/KCRfLOgs0S8


last one for all the Adelaide Oval lovers...
http://youtu.be/_z7XSA8OUdI

[rhino]

Tubby gives the impression that we shouldn't get too excited about day-night test matches - "It's just a normal test match, with an off-red ball, and about an hour under lights at the end of the day"

I went on Friday and the whole thing was brilliant. The fact that they knew they'd be playing under lights for the last hour or so changed the strategy of the match IMO

[skyliner]

That last video above brought to mind, 'Adelaide's iconic structure' as a reference to it. The oval is identified with Adelaide. Such a standout place architecturally, in the sporting field and it's effect on the city. I have seen no other stadium like it and for me it does rank up there with Lords re atmosphere and presentation (though in a different way).

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[monotonehell]

Tubby gives the impression that we shouldn't get too excited about day-night test matches - "It's just a normal test match, with an off-red ball, and about an hour under lights at the end of the day"

I beg to differ... even if it is just on an aesthetic point.

[Vee]

This 'Pink ball cricket: pretty as a picture' headline and report adds to the compliments received by Adelaide Oval as an iconic venue. I enjoyed reading this report by Mark Nicholas on the AO day/night test.

It sums up the massive positive global commentary for our iconic venue. The uncertainties of the final session of the day added to the atmosphere. And the crowds sent a message to Cricket Australia.

.. The scene at Adelaide Oval last week was better still. The pink ball is the prettiest, clearest projectile we have known. Its iridescence allowed superb pictures on television and mainly good sighting at the ground...

...In total, more than 123,000 people came to Adelaide Oval over three days. The television numbers were more staggering still. The novelty is one good reason, the proximity of the ground to the city another. Adelaide has a tremendous history of supporting cricket in all its guises and formats...

... The festival feel of an Adelaide Test was not lost by its translation to the evening. Some may say it was enhanced....

ESPN cricinfo:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 6761.htmln

The scheduling, beginning Friday, extending through Saturday and Sunday worked.
Is the length of the test - 5 days - too long? Is there a case for shrinking the matches to 4 days (as in Sheffield Shield - 96 overs/day)?

[Wayno]

The scheduling, beginning Friday, extending through Saturday and Sunday worked.
Is the length of the test - 5 days - too long? Is there a case for shrinking the matches to 4 days (as in Sheffield Shield - 96 overs/day)?

Test matches used to run to completion. Two full innings from both sides. I believe the longest international test match lasted something like 21 days.

There's already many shorter versions of the game, and while shortening a test match might seem tempting, I think you would lose something special.

It's called a Test because it tests all aspects of a team. Discipline, stamina, strategy, character, endurance, teamwork, patience, individual performance, etc. I love it

[rhino]

There is no doubt that Adelaide Oval has been a success, but has Docklands (which was long spruiked as an example of what we should do here) really been a success story for Victoria? Although many the positive things about Docklands Stadium have been replicated here in Adelaide (proximity to the City Centre and the vibe that is thus created, and the revenue that the vibe creates), there is a darker side to the Docklands development, which you may find interesting.

From Railpage:

2015 and the legacy of the Kennett government is still impacting on the state's economy

$416 Million Investment on one side of Victoria and on the other side transport companies and exporters are deserting the Melbourne Port in preference for the Sydney Container Port.

The reason why the exporters and transport companies are leaving Melbourne Port in preference to the Sydney Container Port, is because of the lack of rail connection.

The Kennett government in its infantile wisdom closed the line to Webb Dock and built a football stadium over the line and freight yard in Spencer St.

This is the type of decision making by governments that work against the interests of the people and economic development of Victoria and necessitate additional expenditure to rectify their imbecilic lack of vision.

The Melbourne Port has been rated the number one port in Australia for the shipment of freight and produce, but will now experience a decline in capacity as exporters and transport companies head north to Sydney due to the lack of rail connection.

Between 1996 and 1998 the Kennett Government moved 6.3 million tonnes of rail freight from V/line to the truck transport industry. Consequently, the major arterial roads through country Victoria are in an appalling state and the cost of maintaining them by Vic Roads has increased substantially as well as necessitating double handling of freight from the port to the Melbourne rail yard by truck.

This has also caused an increase in truck traffic, which are inundating Melbourne's suburbs and as evidence has shown with transport companies, they have been exceptionally negligent with repairs and maintenance of their truck fleets.

Here we are in 2015 and the legacy of the Kennett government is still impacting on the state's economy and its people with disastrous consequences.

Of course this is not the fault of the stadium, or it's proximity to the city, rather it's a problem of it's precise location. I have quoted it here just to show that just because they did it in Melbourne, doesn't make it the ideal solution. The Vics got this one wrong, and now they're paying the price.

[Patrick_27]

There is no doubt that Adelaide Oval has been a success, but has Docklands (which was long spruiked as an example of what we should do here) really been a success story for Victoria? Although many the positive things about Docklands Stadium have been replicated here in Adelaide (proximity to the City Centre and the vibe that is thus created, and the revenue that the vibe creates), there is a darker side to the Docklands development, which you may find interesting.

From Railpage:

2015 and the legacy of the Kennett government is still impacting on the state's economy

$416 Million Investment on one side of Victoria and on the other side transport companies and exporters are deserting the Melbourne Port in preference for the Sydney Container Port.

The reason why the exporters and transport companies are leaving Melbourne Port in preference to the Sydney Container Port, is because of the lack of rail connection.

The Kennett government in its infantile wisdom closed the line to Webb Dock and built a football stadium over the line and freight yard in Spencer St.

This is the type of decision making by governments that work against the interests of the people and economic development of Victoria and necessitate additional expenditure to rectify their imbecilic lack of vision.

The Melbourne Port has been rated the number one port in Australia for the shipment of freight and produce, but will now experience a decline in capacity as exporters and transport companies head north to Sydney due to the lack of rail connection.

Between 1996 and 1998 the Kennett Government moved 6.3 million tonnes of rail freight from V/line to the truck transport industry. Consequently, the major arterial roads through country Victoria are in an appalling state and the cost of maintaining them by Vic Roads has increased substantially as well as necessitating double handling of freight from the port to the Melbourne rail yard by truck.

This has also caused an increase in truck traffic, which are inundating Melbourne's suburbs and as evidence has shown with transport companies, they have been exceptionally negligent with repairs and maintenance of their truck fleets.

Here we are in 2015 and the legacy of the Kennett government is still impacting on the state's economy and its people with disastrous consequences.

Of course this is not the fault of the stadium, or it's proximity to the city, rather it's a problem of it's precise location. I have quoted it here just to show that just because they did it in Melbourne, doesn't make it the ideal solution. The Vics got this one wrong, and now they're paying the price.

There were plans a few years ago (not sure whether they're still relevant or not) that when the AFL had paid off the stadium entirely by 2020 that they would undertake a land swap with a development firm for a large chunk of disused railway land just next to the North Melbourne station where they would build a 30-35,000 stadium to cater for smaller teams in the league so they were closer to capacity each game. The old stadium would be bulldozed and the land used for apartments.

[rhino]

There were plans a few years ago (not sure whether they're still relevant or not) that when the AFL had paid off the stadium entirely by 2020 that they would undertake a land swap with a development firm for a large chunk of disused railway land just next to the North Melbourne station where they would build a 30-35,000 stadium to cater for smaller teams in the league so they were closer to capacity each game. The old stadium would be bulldozed and the land used for apartments.

Considering North Melbourne Station is also in the rail yards, this will only increase the problem!

[I Follow PAFC]

SA Government and Stadium Management Authority plan to expand Adelaide Oval No. 2 into parklands to attract sports.
LURING more national sporting events to South Australia is behind a plan to redevelop the parklands behind Adelaide Oval’s western grandstands.

The State Government and Stadium Management Authority, which controls Adelaide Oval, want to expand Adelaide Oval No. 2 to make it suitable for cricket, athletics and football matches.

http://www.news.com.au/national/south-a ... f55a19257d

[fifty]

So the consolidation and concentration of our sporting precincts around AO continues... Good to hear and logical I would have thought. This can be the boutique ground that caters for those smaller drawing oval sports.

Interesting that it includes athletics. So does this mean a running track? Wonder what Athletics SA and their Mile End facility think of that.

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to capacity and whether there will be any infrastructure developed? eg, small viewing steps/platform, change room facilities, toilets, etc.. or whether it will all utilize those in nearby AO? The slope up to Montefiore Rd would lend itself to that.

Hoping some plans for this come out soon.

Just need Memorial Drive courts now to develop in to a integrated tennis/netball/basketball facility and it will be complete!

[SuperEgz]

Woman's teams already play on Adelaide Oval 2. http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/c ... 56298.html

Sounds like a good idea to continue the concentration of sport into that area! Next step is basketball and netball.

[Patrick_27]

Will this include grandstands?