Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours

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Do you support de - regulation of shop trading hours ?

Yes
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No
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If they shut the borders, would freight/semi deliveries & flights ie cargo in/out of SA then stop? Or would you expect this to be exempt? Does anyone know the value of how much we import vs export (interstate and overseas) as a state? Would rail then be the alternative in/out of SA?
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how good is he wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:01 pm
If they shut the borders, would freight/semi deliveries & flights ie cargo in/out of SA then stop? Or would you expect this to be exempt? Does anyone know the value of how much we import vs export (interstate and overseas) as a state? Would rail then be the alternative in/out of SA?
I guess "they" can declare "close the borders" to mean whatever they want it to mean at the time. Completely closed would rule out all freight in and out, by any means of transport. That would include trucks and trains transiting SA to get between the eastern states and WA.
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Ho Really wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:44 pm
SBD wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:19 pm
Coles is supposedly recruiting 5000 new staff. If they don't have too many people off work for coronavirus illness or isolation, they will soon have some extra staff available to fill some of those gaps.
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rev wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:21 am
They'd be hiring more also in anticipation of many staff being sick and going into quarantine.

QLD Police apparently rushed through their latest recruits to graduation, they're supposedly anticipating 40% reductions in manpower.
Spoke to a Coles duty manager and he said that if someone comes down with COVID-19 they'll shut down the supermarket. Not sure for how long though. Possibly to disinfect and re-open at a later date and the staff would go into quarantine. Also some of those 5000 recruits will be at the checkout etc., not just in the warehouse for restocking etc. However he did say that at the moment they are not envisaging extended hours.

Today was a much quieter day compared to last Saturday when it was pandemonium. This week will also be a test to see if things slow down and return to some normality now that many have hoarded what they need.

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I think they'd have to shut for more then a few days. That resort in the Barossa yesterday with the infected American tourists is shut for 14 days now.
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how good is he wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:01 pm
If they shut the borders, would freight/semi deliveries & flights ie cargo in/out of SA then stop? Or would you expect this to be exempt? Does anyone know the value of how much we import vs export (interstate and overseas) as a state? Would rail then be the alternative in/out of SA?
There would be exceptions like travel on compassionate grounds, essential services and freight which could include the suddenly much valued Quilton toilet paper from the mills in Queensland and NSW.

I'd more interested to know what SA closing it's borders would look like. Are we going to have checkpoints at the road crossings manned by Police? What about air travel, will they tell Qantas, Virgin, Jetstar and Tiger that they cant land here? How is it going to be enforced? What are they going to do in regards to ADF personnel who travel between states?
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America still fly staff to Pine Gap with no 14 day quarantine required right now.
We have freight from overseas with pilots and captains on board arriving.
There is no blanket ban ever. Freight and any other service deemed necessary will be allowed.
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As I posted in the other thread..

The Premier on 5AA right now, just said frieght wont be affected.
The intention is to slow down interstate travel.
Think of it like countries closing borders but on a smaller scale within a single country.


And I must say, our Premier with all his faults, sounds more like a leader in charge then the doofus we have as a Prime Minister right now.
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Scomo is doing better this time than when he was in Hawaii.
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They've now stopped all non essential domestic travel.
Apparently the call was made on that because Victoria and NSW demanded it.

So one step closer to a lockdown/quarantine.
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rev wrote:
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I think they'd have to shut for more then a few days. That resort in the Barossa yesterday with the infected American tourists is shut for 14 days now.
Isn't that because that's where these people are staying and perhaps have infected others at breakfast, in the lounge or at the reception? So a lockdown should come into force? The supermarket if closed for an extended period of time will cause hardship for many shoppers. Only two places should be open during a lockdown, supermarkets or stores where people can buy groceries (food etc.), and hospitals/medical centres.

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bits wrote:
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Scomo is doing better this time than when he was in Hawaii.
I don't know if actually just showing up for your job equates to doing better or, in fact, doing it well.
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Ho Really wrote: Only two places should be open during a lockdown, supermarkets or stores where people can buy groceries (food etc.), and hospitals/medical centres.
And the truck companies that move their stock.
And the warehouses where the stock comes from.
And the producers and importers of the goods.
And the mechanics that fix their trucks.
And the suppliers of their parts.
And the plumber, electricians and communications companies that fixes their services required for business.
And their supply chains.
And their truck companies.

You can't close much at all without the whole thing grinding to a halt fairly quick.

Some industries have opportunities to work from home at times such as office clerks, lawyers, accountants etc.
They certainly can't just not work for months either.
But working from home isn't as simple as just sending people home. Most companies are not geared up to work from home and do not have the financial resources to make that happen.

Optional travel to bars, restaurants, friends house, cinema, tourism etc can go. But most business needs to stay open.
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With working from home it may be hard for employers to know if or how long the employees are working and also will there be enough work to do in the first place?
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bits wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:11 pm
Ho Really wrote: Only two places should be open during a lockdown, supermarkets or stores where people can buy groceries (food etc.), and hospitals/medical centres.
And the truck companies that move their stock.
And the warehouses where the stock comes from.
And the producers and importers of the goods.
And the mechanics that fix their trucks.
And the suppliers of their parts.
And the plumber, electricians and communications companies that fixes their services required for business.
And their supply chains.
And their truck companies.

You can't close much at all without the whole thing grinding to a halt fairly quick.

Some industries have opportunities to work from home at times such as office clerks, lawyers, accountants etc.
They certainly can't just not work for months either.
But working from home isn't as simple as just sending people home. Most companies are not geared up to work from home and do not have the financial resources to make that happen.

Optional travel to bars, restaurants, friends house, cinema, tourism etc can go. But most business needs to stay open.
I meant for people to visit (survive). Of course supply chains need to be open or else supermarkets and hospitals wouldn't operate. Emergencies are an exception.

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Indaily--- Extended trading hours to continue
Extended trading hours to continue
Treasurer Rob Lucas is using his ministerial powers to continue extended shopping hours in South Australia.

The latest move will also allow all suburban retailers – regardless of their size – to open from 9am to 9pm on the Queen’s Birthday public holiday.

He said this exemption for the June 8 public holiday was unprecedented, with Queen’s Birthday trading previously allowed only for CBD and regional shops.

The exemption will coincide with the lifting of “stage 2” restrictions in South Australia.

Lucas has allowed extended trading hours throughout the pandemic, using rolling 30-day exemptions, citing SA Health advice that longer hours help facilitate social distancing.

The new 30-day exemption will apply from May 20 to June 18, allowing supermarkets to trade for 24 hours on weekdays, from 12am to 9pm on Saturdays and from 9am to 9pm on Sundays.

The moves have infuriated independent retailers, who believe longer trading hours damage their businesses to the benefit of the large national operations.
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Rob Lucas is pretty sleazy for using medical reasons to satisfy his political agenda.
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