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Anything goes here.. :) Now with Beer Garden for our smoking patrons.
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I personally don't want to see these sites turned into crappy pre-fab apartments. I think that would be a huge waste.
It could be as I suggested above, an extension of the biomed precinct but on the private sector side of things as opposed to the government funded public side of things in the existing biomed precinct. Maybe some of the big pharmaceutical companies could setup r&d facilities on these sites?
Or they could attract Australian and global defence firms to a defence r&d and innovation hub there. Why not? We call out selves "the Defence State", so why don't we set something like that up? We're not always going to get the major build contracts. We didn't get the contract for those vehicles, I think that went to Geelong or Queensland?
But if we set up an innovation hub where r&d is done, which could be tied in to testing in the outback at the Woomera range, that development work and the billions associated with it, as well as the high paying jobs, will be here for a very long time.

Or why not both the private industry side of biomed hub and a defence innovation hub?
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Port Rd Thebarton is really too far from North Terrace and the RAH to be a continuation of the bio-medical precinct.

I would prefer a new medium density housing development with a nod back to the site's industrial beginnings ie keep the chimney (with SANFL winners colours posted every year) and retention of heritage buildings/pubs etc.

What the site should NOT become is another heavy industry location....prime land opposite the parklands is just too valuable to wasted on factories. Why not let two or three thousand Adelaidians have wonderful views of the parklands and Adelaide hills. Heavy industry should be located out in wasteland suburbia.

Is there demand at the moment....probably not, but in the next 10 years, yes.

And as SRW commented, killing off Buckland Park could be a positive offshoot of this decision.
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I wonder if revitalisation of Bonython Park could improve the viability of the inner-west for development. It's been earmarked a couple of times for significant work as part of various riverbank masterplans, but it all seems forgotten about now. Given its size and the river running through it, it should really be a centrepiece of the parklands, rather than just open fields as event spaces, with a few nicer bits tucked completely out of view.
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Someone (I didn't catch who) was on the radio this morning asserting that it should be residential, on the grounds that factories attract too many semi-trailers to be near the CBD. He saw it as part of a long switch from "old Adelaide" to "future Adelaide".

A week or two ago it was reported that the Pfizer site is to be expanded/redeveloped/complemented by more medical manufacturing or development by Bridgewest. That seems to be a street or two back from the brewery, but perhaps that could be associated if they can attract related industry. Drugs are unlikely to require too many semitrailers, but may not require the space.

It's another site with good transport links for another stadium, too.
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Semi trailers near the cbd...thats a new one.
Where do people come up with this stuff.

One could also easily argue that adding higher density housing to the area will create higher levels of congestion both in side streets and on Port Road.
Even if half of new residents use the tram, that will still cause congestion. More people will require more frequent services, possibly more trams. That means pedestrian crossings will be used more, which will cause traffic congestion for longer periods. More congestion means more frustration means more accidents which means insurance premiums rise, and we all pay then.

But far less then half would use the tram anyway. Not everyone thinks like some people on here who appear to believe that everyone also wants to live in a shoebox and use public transport as their primary means of travel.

As opposed to a few hundred people working at various sites all with set shift times, so there would be limited increased congestion as a result.

The primary focus of government needs to be jobs and jobs.
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rev wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:55 pm
Semi trailers near the cbd...thats a new one.
Where do people come up with this stuff.

One could also easily argue that adding higher density housing to the area will create higher levels of congestion both in side streets and on Port Road.
Even if half of new residents use the tram, that will still cause congestion. More people will require more frequent services, possibly more trams. That means pedestrian crossings will be used more, which will cause traffic congestion for longer periods. More congestion means more frustration means more accidents which means insurance premiums rise, and we all pay then.

But far less then half would use the tram anyway. Not everyone thinks like some people on here who appear to believe that everyone also wants to live in a shoebox and use public transport as their primary means of travel.

As opposed to a few hundred people working at various sites all with set shift times, so there would be limited increased congestion as a result.

The primary focus of government needs to be jobs and jobs.
If an area like that, near the city, is developed into relatively mall residences, I imagine that most will use the tram (or bikes). The people who want a larger residence and want to commute by car or to industrial areas in outer suburbs typically won't choose to live in a shoebox one or two suburbs from the CBD.

I thought the semi-trailer argument was pretty suspect too, but agree that higher public transport patronage likely requires more vehicles (and for the trams, that means a new depot too).

I think it would be great if private investment could be encouraged to either continue drinks manufacture on the Coke and West End sites, or expand biomedical development and manufacture just down the road from the major biomedical teaching, research and consumption area.

Development and manufacture probably requires chemical and civil engineers as well as labour, but they need to interact with the medical and biological scientists, so having them easily able to interact would be a great outcome.
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ChillyPhilly wrote:
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SRW wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:22 pm
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:27 pm
Grocon have collapsed.
Do they have any local projects?
According to their site just this one: https://www.grocon.com/project/raaf-bas ... velopment/
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