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#2911 Post by abc » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:53 am

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SA government seeks philanthropic funding to secure Tarrkarri – Centre for First Nations Cultures project

The South Australian government has set an end-of-year deadline to decide whether a stalled plan to build what's touted to be a globally significant Aboriginal art and cultural centre in Adelaide's CBD will go ahead.

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A cost blowout has cast doubt over the future of Tarrkarri.(Supplied: Woods Bagot)

Premier Peter Malinauskas said he had also spoken with several philanthropists and the federal government about contributing funding for the Tarrkarri Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre, which is at risk of being abandoned if additional money is not found.

"I've personally spoken to entities who have expressed an interest in potentially partnering with us and that will be important," he said on Monday.

"It's an expensive project. I think it's an important project culturally for our state on that parcel of land.

Mr Malinauskas previously warned that Tarrkarri could cost up to $600 million if built on North Terrace — three times the amount currently budgeted by the state and federal governments.

He said the state government had not ruled out increasing its budget for the project and it would be open to accepting funding from publicly listed companies.

"If there are good private companies or individuals who would want to make a contribution to this effort and are interested in the project, then we remain receptive to working with them collaboratively," he said.

Second Tarrkarri review commissioned

Tarrkarri is slated to be bigger than the South Australian Museum and the Art Gallery of South Australia combined, which could draw hundreds of thousands of visitors each year.

It is also set to display tens of thousands of Indigenous artefacts from across Australia, which have sat in storage for decades.

But the government put the project on hold in October following a $50 million cost blowout.

At the time, it announced former Indigenous Australians minister Ken Wyatt, former New South Wales premier Bob Carr and former investment banker Carolyn Hewson would review the project.

Contract documents recently released by the government show it also appointed former SA Tourism Commission chairman Andrew McEvoy to conduct a second Tarrkarri review in December.

The government tasked Mr McEvoy with investigating how many overseas tourists would be attracted to the centre if it opened.

"There wasn't the serious work done to make sure that this is a good thing to do," Mr Malinauskas said on Monday.

"We're being really scrupulous about wanting to make sure that the decision we make is underpinned by evidence that any such investment will be a lasting, positive one for the state culturally, but also economically."

The former state government did consider how many people would visit the centre once it opened.

A document released in 2021 which summarised the findings of a confidential business case stated that between 485,000 and 581,000 people would visit the centre in 2025.

It stated that the number of annual visitors to the centre would increase by up to 665,000 people by 2040.

The state government is yet to publicly release the full Tarrkarri business case, or the reviews conducted by McEvoy, Wyatt, Carr and Hewson.
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philanthropists only fund things such as this for some quid pro quo or long game benefit to themselves

I'm not comfortable with the state government doing deals with such characters

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#2912 Post by Ursus Maritimus » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:52 am

If the Aboriginal cultural centre doesn't go ahead, what could they possibly use that huge site for? Surely not some boring research centre - we'll have more than enough of those at Adelaide Uni, the SAHMRI area and Lot 14. I'd like to see some kind of museum or other grand public building, of artistic or cultural significance, go there. Can Adelaide afford that?

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#2913 Post by gnrc_louis » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:20 am

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If the Aboriginal cultural centre doesn't go ahead, what could they possibly use that huge site for? Surely not some boring research centre - we'll have more than enough of those at Adelaide Uni, the SAHMRI area and Lot 14. I'd like to see some kind of museum or other grand public building, of artistic or cultural significance, go there. Can Adelaide afford that?
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#2914 Post by Ursus Maritimus » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:22 pm

Today's view from the Royal Show Ferris wheel, showing the latest skyline:
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The Central Market apartment building and Victoria Tower will be very prominent from that angle.

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#2915 Post by [Shuz] » Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:07 am

That's probably one of the best inner-city views (from the SW) of the city skyline.
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#2916 Post by Ursus Maritimus » Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:59 am

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That's probably one of the best inner-city views (from the SW) of the city skyline.
Thank you - it's certainly a unique view since that Ferris wheel is by far the tallest accessible point in that area, and it's only metres away from the southern edge of the park lands. You might get similar good views from the SA Power Networks building or Air Apartments at 220 Greenhill Road. I really like that it's an old-fashioned Ferris wheel without windows.

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#2917 Post by Ursus Maritimus » Sun Sep 03, 2023 10:58 am

I was digging through my photos, and this was taken on March 4, 2023 from the Stamford Hotel on North Terrace, showing the RAA building in its relatively brief time without signage. I was struck by the fact that this is one of the only angles from which you can see almost the whole height of the building from a distance.
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#2918 Post by Patrick_27 » Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:36 pm

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I was digging through my photos, and this was taken on March 4, 2023 from the Stamford Hotel on North Terrace, showing the RAA building in its relatively brief time without signage. I was struck by the fact that this is one of the only angles from which you can see almost the whole height of the building from a distance.

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I love the RAA House, much like the nearby ‘black stump’, it’s certainly a timeless building that exists in harmony with the attached heritage buildings and of an era where they seemed to design and build more meaningful high-rise buildings. I also love how its shape misleads its height/density from various angles. In your picture is looks skinny and tall, but from the south west coming down Anzac Highway it looks stump. I know that has a lot to do with the sloping of the Adelaide plains but it still cleverly plays on that.

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#2919 Post by Ursus Maritimus » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:24 pm

More digging through old pictures. The following are taken from videos I recorded from two flights into Adelaide, unfortunately on two dull days but I absolutely love seeing the city from the air regardless of the weather. It's a view that makes me proud to live here.

19 May 2019, showing many cranes up:
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#2920 Post by Ursus Maritimus » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:26 pm

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#2921 Post by Ursus Maritimus » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:31 pm

And these are from 5 June 2022, showing the completed Crowne Plaza, Switch, and Sofitel, the huge vacant RAH site, and the beginnings of the Festival Tower and 60 King William St:
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#2922 Post by Ursus Maritimus » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:33 pm

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#2923 Post by joshzxzx » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:32 pm

Not sure where this should be posted... Appears that the Town Hall is getting a clean.
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#2924 Post by SRW » Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:54 pm

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Not sure where this should be posted... Appears that the Town Hall is getting a clean.
Yeah, there’s been some water ingress and delamination (you can see crumbling stonework/plaster on the KWS façade) in recent years. Project site here:
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#2925 Post by Ursus Maritimus » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:22 pm

The Town Hall certainly needs a clean. I took this picture today:
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What do we think about the problems with the Adelaide Bridge? My strong preference is that the existing structure is strengthened. If they need to rebuild it, I would definitely want it to replicate the existing one. I like that heritage look - can't imagine that bridge looking any other way.

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