[COM] 11 Frome Street | 138m | 37 Levels | Crowne Plaza / Adelaidean | New tallest

[Jaymz]

I like the building very much, but dislike the location....
would much prefer it in the core. Still, won't see me complain if it gets built (which it won't).

[Will]

From the AFR:

Adelaide's upwards race continues: developer Kyren proposes 36-level tower

by Michael Bleby


Adelaide's high-rise housing boom has not run out of steam, with developer Kyren Group pushing ahead with plans for a 36-level mixed-use tower on Frome Street in the CBD.

Colliers International has been appointed to market the 88 apartments in the building, which is still pending a development approval that was presented this week to the Adelaide City Council.

SA's apartment market is about one-tenth the size of the eastern states, but it has been through a record growth spurt. In the year to May, authorities gave the nod to 3666 new apartments, townhouses and semi-detached dwellings, a new high. The city is at risk of oversupply, research house BIS Shrapnel said last year. Approvals don't necessarily translate into construction, especially at a time when banks are tightening loans to investors, but Colliers agent Nick Pelvay said he was confident this project would go ahead.

"In terms of the record number of approvals, or projects pending approval, ultimately the projects we've been involved with have typically all been successful and got out of the ground," said Mr Pelvay, who with Aimee Guo has been appointed to market the residential part of the building. "Kyren Group is well known and a group well known to deliver projects on time and of high quality."



The building on a 4163-square-metre site just off North Terrace would be taller than the 27-storey Vue tower at the southern end of King William Street and a separate 29-storey building just off Rundle Mall proposed by a consortium of private investors.



Mr Pelvay said he was confident a marketing campaign could start in the next two to three months for the apartments, which will occupy levels 22 to 36 of the building.

Pricing was not yet disclosed for the dwellings, he said.

Levels 11 to 21 will contain 60 one-, two- and three-room serviced apartments, while the first 10 levels will comprise a hotel.

A separate 21-storey student accommodation tower will front Synagogue Place, parallel to Frome Street, and will have about 268 beds with a ground floor cafe.


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[slenderman]

Looks better from that angle, but I think the lighting plays a part. I personally still think the podium should be a bit shorter and the block on the north east corner removed, but that's just my opinion. I still don't really have the same want to see this go ahead that I had with Vue and now Sofitel and the 58/48m South Terrace apartments. I'll eat my words if it goes ahead and looks fantastic.

That other building is still atrocious, and I imagine that it's also the building's best angle. Although derelict, it would be a shame to lose the Gerard and Goodman building for that uninspiring lump of concrete.

[Algernon]

The student housing has enough going on in its south side facade that it offers something, whatever that something is. Even if the other sides are blank concrete there is no net loss here - it blocks out globe, globe blocks out it.

If the developer owns the car park I would be suprised if they didn't do something with the roof of the structure to add amenity to the hotel and residential building - sports and recreation and whatnot. Seems like a free hit to me.

[SRW]

I like the building very much, but dislike the location....
would much prefer it in the core. Still, won't see me complain if it gets built (which it won't).

Dislike the location from a skyline point of view or building purpose. Because IMO the people who end up living here will be very lucky - it's near to everything.

I welcome it. The design is basic but no worse than several others proposed or already built. I do wonder if Eclipse will ever get out of the ground, as that's similarly well-located but also well-designed (at least externally).

[slenderman]

The student housing has enough going on in its south side facade that it offers something, whatever that something is. Even if the other sides are blank concrete there is no net loss here - it blocks out globe, globe blocks out it.

With all due respect, if you can't articulate what this "something" it offers is, what's your point?

I suppose it offers a polka dot pattern, something we don't really have in Adelaide, but I wouldn't say it's a particularly awe-inspiring innovation. Would you?

The presumably blank, or at least fairly bare wall facing North Terrace will certainly be a big negative, and something we have plenty of in Adelaide and don't really want more of - Globe won't block that out from every angle. The eastern and western walls are also presumably half-blank, judging from the render.

By all means, go ahead and knock the G&G building down. I know that it's a run-down and under-utilised building, a liability in its current state compared to the benefits of constructing the apartment tower and it's probably difficult to build the student accommodation tower on this site without demolishing it, short of redesigning the second tower or possibly building on the roof of the carpark, which are both unlikely/potentially impossible respectively.

However, it's not unreasonable to at least want something built that is worthy of the heritage Rundle Street/North Terrace streetscape, something worth looking at twice to replace the G&G building, rather than knocking it down just because we feel like putting up an ugly duckling of a tower and because we can't be bothered restoring the original building. One day we may well run out of these neat, old and unique urban laneway fillers and regret what we've replaced them with.

[phenom]

So still no info on height though... lol. The clickbait heading of 'Adelaide's tallest tower' gives way to 'Adelaide's tallest residential tower'. They know full well most people don't care or know what the difference is between commercial and residential and the usual difference in floor heights.

[Blimp]

All of these 100m+ proposals, surely one of them will pull through.

That student apartments building though

[Mpol]

Ya the student accom is my only objection to this.

[Spurdo]

Was searching google today for any news on this one and i came across a promotional video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XCuapgjZpM

[Brando]

After watching the video, the car park would be a prime space to convert into a rooftop garden.

[SRW]

After watching the video, the car park would be a prime space to convert into a rooftop garden.

Yeah, it's interesting how little they've done with it. I wonder if it can support another building on top - maybe they're planning something down the line?

[[Shuz]]

The last 5 seconds of the video from the corner of Rundle and Hutt showing the sheer size of this compared to its surroundings. I don't think this is a good thing.

[Mants]

I think that setting the main tower back off Frome Road would do wonders for the aesthetic of this development. Despite the fact that this tower calls for the demolition of the Rhino Room, which is extremely disappointing, I do think that a tower here would bring much needed foot traffic into the precinct post-RAH shutdown.

[phenom]

So according to AdelaideNow/Messenger now the taller of the two towers in this proposal is 140m high. I think sometime ago another poster or posters said they thought it looked taller than Westpac too.

Normally I wouldn't put much stock in them but this article seems reasonably accurate (although I think Vue height is off slightly?). The author doesn't fall into the 'beginners trap' (ie typical AdelaideNow/Messenger) of equating number of floors with building height which in itself is a great relief

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger ... 7063ae2878