Housing Developments | Northern Suburbs

[drsmith]

I know the whole area is a flood plain but the scale of the culverts under Port Wakefield Road north of Two Wells suggests that that area is more flood prone than the land further south.

[Paulns]

Yes most of the growers do own their own land. This story is an absolute folly. I wouldnt bother listening to Grow SA, maybe this Journalist should of just gone straight to the horses mouth and spoke to some of the companies out there in the horticulural industry first hand?? Crap reporting at its best. The growers do not want to move north. I know a lot of growers and come from a farming background myself. All they want and need is more land north of Virginia to expand their operation. I'm sure they wouldn't for any cost want to give up their prime horticultural land which is fertile, established, close to the markets and merchants in Adelaide (The Coles Distribution Centre is located in Edinburgh Parks, Woolworths Distribution centre near Gepps Cross and the Pooraka Produce Markets are barely 25 minutes away) and near the major interstate roads of the new The Northern Expressway, Sturt Highway and Port Wakefield Roads. Its simple, the big players in the industry have become that big that they need more land to expand.

But in saying that anyone who thinks its easy to just pick up stumps in a major farming/horticulture operation and move has absolutly no idea. The cost alone of installing irrigation systems, building implement sheds and glass houses would blow most people away let alone all the other associated costs that come along with relocating any sort of business. I'd say that only the larger established companies could afford that. The little people with smaller family market gardens, would quite possibly struggle with the costs. We're talking many thousands of dollars here, not petty cash. For those who grew up in the urban city environment, modern farming requires alot more than just your average Bunnings style garden hose, despite the term, "Market Gardener". Its taken many years and in some cases, millions of dollars for these companies to establish their operations on that land. I bet the State Governement wouldnt compensate them for the cost of relocation and lost production either?

It would only be the Governments responsibility to provide the water (treated/recycled) to the new area north of Two Wells. Farmers do currantly and would still have to install their own irrigation systems at their own cost and then pay for that water. Yes Virginia lies on a flood plain, but what makes Virginia truely unique and a vital asset to this state is that the area has the rare combination of fertile soils and access to ground/bore water. There are very few places in this state that have this combination. It would be a tragedy to lose this prime agricultural land to more crapy McMansion style estates. The State Government should be concentrating their efforts on rejuvenating some of the currant older suburbs.

[bm7500]

From http://www.adelaidenow.com.au

Recreational lake, marina and waterfront precinct at Dry Creek



A RECREATIONAL saltwater lake, new marina and an 11-kilometre waterfront precinct have been proposed for the Dry Creek salt flats, north of Adelaide.

Owner of the Dry Creek salt pans Ridley Corporation announced it was forging ahead with plans to develop the site into a mixed-use urban development which would house 20,000 new residents.

The project is being investigated in cooperation with Delfin Lend Lease - the developer behind Mawson Lakes and Blakes Crossing - and the Land Management Corporation which owns much of the surrounding land.

Ridley said a preliminary master plan prepared with Delfin Lend Lease had been completed and included:

A site area of 980 hectares - almost three times the area of the Adelaide CBD
10,000 dwellings housing more than 20,000 residents
An 11 kilometre developable waterfront land
A 40 hectare town centre and mixed use precinct
Two neighbourhood precincts
A 120 hectare saltwater recreational lake with ocean access and marina facilities
Creation of dedicated areas for new mangrove habitats and wetlands.
The company said the State Government's 30 year plan for Greater Adelaide identified the Dry Creek salt field area as a ``key urban expansion'' site.

In May 2008 Ridley Corporation entered into a joint venture with Delfin Lend Lease to investigate the site's redevelopment with the aim of unlocking its value and moving to cheaper land holdings further north.

The Dry Creek salt field, located 12km north-west of Adelaide, is owned by Ridley's wholly-owned subsidiary Cheetham Salt Limited.

Ridley bought the salt fields from Penrice Soda Holdings in 2005 and is contractually obliged to maintain its supply of brine to Penrice if it does relocate.

Ridley said yesterday it was undertaking detailed investigations into the relocation of the salt fields to Cheetham's northern leases.

The company said the second phase of the feasibility plan would be completed by December this year, but no details on the development's likely start-up date were available.

Comments have been sought from the Land Management Corporation and Delfin Lend Lease, but no response had been received at the time of publishing

SARAH MARTIN

[muzzamo]

I wonder what sort of public transport they would roll out to the area, given that TOD's are supposed to be guiding planning now.

[Shuz]

Just a duly reminder; please refrain from reading the comments on AdelaideNow about this development. Reading so will declare yourself clinically insane - I mean, you wouldn't want to increase the burden the mental health facilities would you? Wait... what facilities?

[Howie]

I'm trying to locate the thread where someone on these forums mentioned that dry creek salt plains would be redeveloped, it would be going back a few years ago.

Great location, the scale and value of this will probably surpass Mawson Lakes just down the road from it.

[Splashmo]

20,000 people in 10,000 dwellings does not sound like the medium-high density living of the future. In an area three times the size of the CBD then surely they could fit more people than that.

[Brando]

I'm trying to locate the thread where someone on these forums mentioned that dry creek salt plains would be redeveloped, it would be going back a few years ago.

Great location, the scale and value of this will probably surpass Mawson Lakes just down the road from it.

It was mentioned in both the Mawson Lakes and Buckland Park threads mate. Bit of old info i posted a while back.
http://www.ridley.com.au/verve/_resourc ... in.pdf.pdf

[Howie]

Ah cheers mate

[AtD]

20,000 people in 10,000 dwellings does not sound like the medium-high density living of the future. In an area three times the size of the CBD then surely they could fit more people than that.

A dwelling is a single house/unit/apartment/shoebox. You wouldn't get much more than that unless it's student accommodation.

[ozisnowman]

Will love to see how they will stop SALT DAMP occuring in any residential development on this site.

[fabricator]

20,000 people in 10,000 dwellings does not sound like the medium-high density living of the future. In an area three times the size of the CBD then surely they could fit more people than that.

Its not the density, its the fact that the couples won't be able to afford children with the insane mortgage and constant repairs due to salt damp and corrosion.

Mum the gate's rusted shut again !

Anyone for ideas on names for this "new exciting new address" *cough* ?
"Rusty Backwaters" is the best I can come up with.

The tramline at St Kilda is constantly rusty, and sometimes has salt crystals blown onto it.

[Jamo]

20,000 people in 10,000 dwellings does not sound like the medium-high density living of the future. In an area three times the size of the CBD then surely they could fit more people than that.

Its not the density, its the fact that the couples won't be able to afford children with the insane mortgage and constant repairs due to salt damp and corrosion.

Mum the gate's rusted shut again !

Anyone for ideas on names for this "new exciting new address" *cough* ?
"Rusty Backwaters" is the best I can come up with.

The tramline at St Kilda is constantly rusty, and sometimes has salt crystals blown onto it.

How about 'Salt Lake City' for a start.

[Aidan]

Will love to see how they will stop SALT DAMP occuring in any residential development on this site.

Presumably with damp proof course layers, just like on any other site!

[contractor]

Will love to see how they will stop SALT DAMP occuring in any residential development on this site.

Presumably with damp proof course layers, just like on any other site!

Technically, the damp proof course prevents salt rising from the concrete floor slab into the brickwork. If the fortecon (The orange plastic below the concrete floor slab) is torn, salt damp can occur in the concrete and show up in places like the garage floor. I wouldn't buy a house there given it's currently a salt plain aka salty soil on steriods.