Re: Footbrawl (pointless arguments about the AFL)
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:38 am
That's the one.PeFe wrote:Please retitle this thread "Footbrawl".......
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That's the one.PeFe wrote:Please retitle this thread "Footbrawl".......
Been that way since day dot? Whose acting like that?spiller wrote:Port on top the AFL ladder, winning games, selling out match after match. FIFTY TWO THOUSAND MEMBERS!!!oneone11111! (24 thousand of which are comprised of three game or less memberships). Port supporters preaching gospel as if its been the case since day dot. Now every man and his dog, tom, dick and harry are Port fans!
Gee Port fans have short memories
That's the one! Footbrawl!PeFe wrote:Please retitle this thread "Footbrawl".......
I might start the Port Adelaide Volunteer Militia. You in?[Shuz] wrote:Jee, Rev, it seems like you'd go voluntary sign yourself up as a Port Adelaide conscript should the club ever go to war.
At a time when the club was being detrimentally controlled and drained by the SANFL? They voted with their feet and their wallets. For change.spiller wrote:That's a great post and all rev, but where were those words in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012? You said it yourself, 40,000 members ditched their memberships. Now, last time I looked, turning your back on a club that you're so "passionate" about when they are performing poorly, and rejoining again when they start winning is not GOOD tradition. Sure, there are always going to be a few that ride the band wagon, but 40,000!? What does that say about Port Adelaide culture?
I really don't care what the Crows are, nor do I call them the cows.You can rave on about the Crows being a composite team and nothing but a business until the cows (like my pun?) come home. Isnt that what the AFL is these days, a corporation? You think Port dont want to be this way? Why are they trying to create a new market in China? What does Alberton have to do with China?
You're right, you did forget, because you're just a plain old idiot trying to appear intelligent on the subject of Port Adelaide, like most Camry Crowbots.Plus, that whole argument about the crows having no history is becoming redundant now anyway. The club is approaching 25 years of age. They have plenty of young members. lets not forget THE CROWS ARE A BIGGER CLUB THAN PORT. And before you say "well Port have over 100 years of history", that's great, but did ALL of Port's 52,000 current members hail from the blue collar origins of the original Port Adelaide? Hardly. We are talking the magpies here, not that mob with teal on their jumpers. Oh wait, I forgot, "One Club".
LOL clutch at some smaller straws.I also realise every AFL club sells 3-game memberships these days. Why wouldn't they? Its a great business model. But don't over-look the fact that almost 50% of your members don't have the commitment to buy a full 11-game membership. Again, what does that say about Port fans and their level of commitment to their club? Count up the numbers for 1 and 3 game crows memberships and compare those numbers to their 11-game memberships and see what the difference is.
Oh, I'm immensely revved up jackass.Am i getting you "revved" up yet rev?
No you don't. You are trying to save face now.FWIW, I really like Port Adelaide as an organisation.
The Crows should start trying to be original and do their own thing.I think that their marketing is great, their pre-game entertainment is fantastic, and the Crows have a lot to learn from them in these areas. I just have sour grapes about the fact that you only see passion from Port fans when their team is doing well, and when its the case you'd think it had been happening for a million consecutive seasons.
Rev put it bluntlyrev wrote:At a time when the club was being detrimentally controlled and drained by the SANFL? They voted with their feet and their wallets. For change.spiller wrote:That's a great post and all rev, but where were those words in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012? You said it yourself, 40,000 members ditched their memberships. Now, last time I looked, turning your back on a club that you're so "passionate" about when they are performing poorly, and rejoining again when they start winning is not GOOD tradition. Sure, there are always going to be a few that ride the band wagon, but 40,000!? What does that say about Port Adelaide culture?
Change has now occurred. Part of the reason change occurred, part of the reason the club fell as low as it did, is because those members acted the only way they realistically act and force a change.
Make no mistake, people turned away because they were sick of what they were seeing. What they were seeing was a direct result of the SANFL.
Isn't it funny that now we are almost totally free of any SANFL involvement in AFL football in this state, and how drastically Port's fortunes have changed? Amazing. Further proof and solidifies my argument.
I really don't care what the Crows are, nor do I call them the cows.You can rave on about the Crows being a composite team and nothing but a business until the cows (like my pun?) come home. Isnt that what the AFL is these days, a corporation? You think Port dont want to be this way? Why are they trying to create a new market in China? What does Alberton have to do with China?
I actually hope that both Port and the Crows get equal, fair, balanced deals and treatment from here on in, and while I hope that Port maintains it's strong performances, I also want to see the Crows doing well as well. I'm not bitter or twisted on the whole matter like some of you Crowbots are.
The whole playing a game in China thing is about capturing a new market. About creating new potential sponsors. It's about taking our game beyond our own shores. It's innovation and thinking outside the box, something foreign to the Crows corporate heads who so far this season have tried to emulate what Port Adelaide has done but have fallen short. Hard to chase the leader when you don't know what the leader is actually doing.
Yep, football is a business. A multi-billion dollar business. No money, cant operate. That's what it's about.
It takes more then a club culture and traditions. It takes a lot more money then it used to, when those traditions and that culture was forged.
That is the reality when a football department needs $20 million to operate and be competitive.
That doesn't mean the club turns it's back on it's culture or traditions. Those things are very much a part of the way forward as they are of that clubs history.
You're right, you did forget, because you're just a plain old idiot trying to appear intelligent on the subject of Port Adelaide, like most Camry Crowbots.Plus, that whole argument about the crows having no history is becoming redundant now anyway. The club is approaching 25 years of age. They have plenty of young members. lets not forget THE CROWS ARE A BIGGER CLUB THAN PORT. And before you say "well Port have over 100 years of history", that's great, but did ALL of Port's 52,000 current members hail from the blue collar origins of the original Port Adelaide? Hardly. We are talking the magpies here, not that mob with teal on their jumpers. Oh wait, I forgot, "One Club".
What you fail to understand, either through stupidity, ignorance, or just plain being a jackass, is that the Port Adelaide Football Club that was founded in 1870(it actually is older then the SANFL, another fact for you), left the SANFL when it joined the AFL, and changed from the "Magpies" to the "Power". The club didn't fold, and a new entity replace it. The club rebranded it self. For obvious reasons, it's called Collingwood Magpies. The Magpies which then existed in the SANFL concurrently with the Power, was on the wishes of the SANFL. Again, for obvious reasons. Port Adelaide cash cow, biggest club in the league, splitting the supporter base between Magpies and Power.
Eventually, as you say, the cows came home, and Port Adelaide said enough is enough, the right opportunity presented it self for something to be done, and it was done.
I hope I've educated you, and hopefully bits and pieces have stuck in your mind. Eventually, you will hear it enough times, and all the bits and pieces will stick in your mind. Putting them all in the correct order in a Crowbots mind though might require some doing though.
LOL clutch at some smaller straws.I also realise every AFL club sells 3-game memberships these days. Why wouldn't they? Its a great business model. But don't over-look the fact that almost 50% of your members don't have the commitment to buy a full 11-game membership. Again, what does that say about Port fans and their level of commitment to their club? Count up the numbers for 1 and 3 game crows memberships and compare those numbers to their 11-game memberships and see what the difference is.
Oh, I'm immensely revved up jackass.Am i getting you "revved" up yet rev?
No you don't. You are trying to save face now.FWIW, I really like Port Adelaide as an organisation.
A bit too transparent. Like the lying and cheating your club is now renowned for with it's "clerical errors".
The Crows should start trying to be original and do their own thing.I think that their marketing is great, their pre-game entertainment is fantastic, and the Crows have a lot to learn from them in these areas. I just have sour grapes about the fact that you only see passion from Port fans when their team is doing well, and when its the case you'd think it had been happening for a million consecutive seasons.
Copying Port by playing songs(non-club song) before a game, trying to have a mini concert like Ports post-game concerts, trying to have a "march to the oval" like Port does..just pathetic really.
Like I said, it's hard to copy and follow the leader when you don't even know what the leader is doing and why the leader is doing what they are doing.
This kind of statement is equally as pathetic.jk1237 wrote:come on now, grow up camries, don't dish it out if you can't take it, its rather lame
oh dear - another pathetic post by the self righteous WaewickWaewick wrote:This kind of statement is equally as pathetic.jk1237 wrote:come on now, grow up camries, don't dish it out if you can't take it, its rather lame