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Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:54 pm
by timtam20292
Really don’t get the strong dislike towards the facade. I’m not offended by it.

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:00 am
by Nathan
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:05 pm
Nathan wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:12 pm
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:55 pm
God, I hope they redo the facade. Fuck it looks awful.

Miserable looking building. This takeover is great for Victoria squares offering.
Hard disagree. Aside from needing a power wash, the exterior of the building looks great. It's the rooms and conference rooms that need rejuvenation.
This brutalist [s]1950s uninspirational[/s] 1980s monolith is appealing to you?
Yes, as does the cluster of other brutalist buildings on the other side of the square (Wakefield House, Dept of Education, former Motor Registration Centre, etc.)
It represents and speaks about a time in Adelaide's history just as much as the Samuel Way building next to it.

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:15 am
by Mpol02
I like the education building of all the buildings I think it is the best of the brutalists

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:41 am
by Nort
I don't really like it in person. It looks old fashioned, not old enough to be classic, not new enough to be flashy and modern.

That's exactly why it shouldn't go. The historical trend is that we tend to have a bit of a cultural cringe for the architecture and fashions of decades past, and eventually see their continued existence as a sign of cheapness, or lack of progress.

It's exactly the same tragedy that was seen throughout the 20th century, where many buildings were torn down for having that same outdated cringe. We look at the destruction of locations like the Grand Central Hotel, demolished for a carpark and are taken back, how could they.

They could because to them it was just another example of half century old architecture they had moved on from and saw as a throwaway sign of stagnation. Either replace them, or put a sleek new 1960s modern facade in front.

The lesson to take from the past isn't that any particular style should have been saved, it's that in situations like this we are as a society and individuals are likely far too quick to dismiss things as not worthy, and can easily be the wreckers of history we are otherwise quick to bemoan

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:37 am
by [Shuz]
I love the architectural style of the Hilton.

It's just the conference rooms and hotel rooms that need updating, not the facade.

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:00 am
by Patrick_27
Nort wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:41 am
I don't really like it in person. It looks old fashioned, not old enough to be classic, not new enough to be flashy and modern.

That's exactly why it shouldn't go. The historical trend is that we tend to have a bit of a cultural cringe for the architecture and fashions of decades past, and eventually see their continued existence as a sign of cheapness, or lack of progress.

It's exactly the same tragedy that was seen throughout the 20th century, where many buildings were torn down for having that same outdated cringe. We look at the destruction of locations like the Grand Central Hotel, demolished for a carpark and are taken back, how could they.

They could because to them it was just another example of half century old architecture they had moved on from and saw as a throwaway sign of stagnation. Either replace them, or put a sleek new 1960s modern facade in front.

The lesson to take from the past isn't that any particular style should have been saved, it's that in situations like this we are as a society and individuals are likely far too quick to dismiss things as not worthy, and can easily be the wreckers of history we are otherwise quick to bemoan
It's also the reason why they should be preserved in their most original form, even if it means going through phases of looking 'dated'. The buildings on the other side of Vic Square are a good example of doing this, whereas the old Telstra HQ on Pirie Street has seen about four or five iterations of the entrance lobby when the original lobby was the best for that building.

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:34 pm
by rev
timtam20292 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:54 pm
Really don’t get the strong dislike towards the facade. I’m not offended by it.
I think we're all kind of used to it being there hence most don't find it offensive. I still think it deserves a bulldozer. If I had the cash I'd buy it just to demolish it :lol:
I don't think anyone who likes it, or hates it, is trolling, it's just opinions.

With so much under-development in the CBD, it's unlikely this is going to be bulldozed for a new hotel or any other development. Why take on that extra cost and time burden?

I doubt they'll even do anything to the facade on this one. Would $40 mil cover an interior and exterior make over?

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:29 am
by Ho Really
Thai group Amora Hotels & Resorts has acquired the Hilton Adelaide and the new owners the Siriphatrawan family are planing a $40 million renovation for the hotel. The Hilton's lease expires in July 2026. The acquisition is Amora’s fourth hotel in Australia: 415-room Amora Hotel Jamison Sydney, 296-room Amora Brisbane and 111-room Amora Hotel Riverwalk Melbourne. In Thailand, it has the 204-room Amora Tapae Hotel Chiang Mai, 60-room Amora Neoluxe Hotel Bangkok and the 265-room Amora Beach Resort Phuket.

Source: The Urban Developer

Cheers

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:45 am
by ml69
Smart purchase in my opinion. Iconic location. Tram stop out the front.

Victoria Square views can’t be built out (although western views will be obscured with the new Central Market buildings).

Victoria Square will be an even more desirable location once the new market development is finished. Just needs a full internal refurbish and opening up of the podium levels to make it nice again.

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:15 am
by SouthAussie94
Prominent Hindley Street site for sale as ‘development opportunity’

The Manera Building on the corner of Hindley Street and Morphett Street in the CBD is for sale, with agents Adelaide Commercial Specialists (ACS) highlighting the site’s prime development potential.

In a video posted on the building’s Real Commercial listing, ACS shows an apartment-style tower appearing in puff of smoke on the site that housed the now-defunct Enigma Bar.

Full article: https://www.indailysa.com.au/citymag/de ... pportunity

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:31 am
by Prodical
Good to see the back of this derelict building

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:31 am
by Prodical
oops

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:54 pm
by gnrc_louis

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 2:11 pm
by Ben
Not a lot of information and no render. Hasn’t even been lodged.
Fortis, Otello join forces in luxury apartment project on Hutt St

Around 40 luxury apartments will be built on a former petrol station and cycling cafe site in the heart of Adelaide, following its multi-million dollar sale.
Giuseppe Tauriello

The property development arm of Sydney-based developer and lender Pallas Group is partnering with local group Otello on an $80m luxury apartment project following their multi-million dollar purchase of the former Ride Contour cafe and bike shop site on Hutt St in the Adelaide CBD.

The joint venture has paid $6.02m for the 1241sq m site, and is planning a mixed-use development with 40 luxury apartments on top of a ground floor retail space.

It’s the first project in Adelaide for Pallas Group’s Fortis, which has grown rapidly in recently years with a string of residential and commercial projects across Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.

Fortis development manager Arthur Dendrinos described it as an “exciting new chapter for Fortis”.

“Adelaide has been on our radar for some time and we’re proud to be entering this market with a partner like Otello, who shares our values around community, collaboration and individual expression,” he said.

“Placemaking is at the heart of everything we do, and this project presents an opportunity to enhance one of the city’s most iconic streets in a meaningful and enduring way.”

Construction is expected to commence in mid-2026, with completion expected by early 2028.

The Hutt St site, between Angas and Carrington streets, was previously a Caltex service station before it was transformed into a one-stop-shop for cyclists by Penny Hospitality.

Ride Contour closed in March last year following the expiry of its lease.

Otello director Daniel Harris said the site “presents an opportunity to shape the future of Hutt St through a development that blends quality design, premium living and vibrant retail spaces”.

“We’re incredibly excited to acquire a site of this calibre alongside Fortis,” he said.

“Together, we’re focused on delivering a landmark destination that respects the character of Hutt St while raising the bar for apartment living in Adelaide.”

Otello specialises in urban infill residential and mixed-use developments across Adelaide, including developments at various stages in Mile End, Kent Town, Tonsley, Bowden and Unley.

CBRE director Ned Looker, who brokered the property sale, said it had generated strong interest from a wide range of buyer groups.

“Strong buyer interest saw over 150 enquiries and 15 competitive offers during the five-week campaign,” he said.

“The final sale price of $4851 per square metre reflects both the site’s prime Hutt St location and its significant development potential.”

Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:52 pm
by SRW
Prodical wrote:
Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:31 am
oops
What's happening here?