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rev wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:04 pm

mattblack wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:21 pm

rev wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:01 pm

Most people aren't "rolling their eyes" when it comes to cost of living pressures which aren't easing up but increasing.

Detainees or the odd boat of desperate people is not going to make a speck of difference to your cost of living argument. This race to the bottom by some is what people of all political persuasions should be lambasting.

Immigration, along with other national priority policies should be bi-partisan for the most part instead of this cheap point scoring and scaremongering.

Not sure you're quite on the same page as everyone else, but nobody is discussing illegal immigration.

I think you'll find that you're the one who linked my response to inept coalition scaremongering and ability to sell a policy to cost of living. Additoonally, i actually said Immigration policy should be bi-psrtisan to avoid this ongoing debate. Might want to check yourself first.

We're talking about immigration, specifically the high intake of migrants in the past 12 months and projected figures for the next 2 years. The cost of living etc.

One person is mentioning and fixated on illegal immigrants, thats you.

I doubt that this will clear it up for you.

rev wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:23 pm

We're talking about immigration, specifically the high intake of migrants in the past 12 months and projected figures for the next 2 years. The cost of living etc.

One person is mentioning and fixated on illegal immigrants, thats you.

I doubt that this will clear it up for you.

You missed my point entirely mate. Go back and read my original post on selling a policy which I replied to.

I think you ll find that the only people that r fixated on illegal immigration is the libs, not people like me.

Ramming you're opinion down my thoat will not clear anything up. Leave it at that.

mattblack wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:27 pm

rev wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:23 pm

We're talking about immigration, specifically the high intake of migrants in the past 12 months and projected figures for the next 2 years. The cost of living etc.

One person is mentioning and fixated on illegal immigrants, thats you.

I doubt that this will clear it up for you.

You missed my point entirely mate. Go back and read my original post on selling a policy which I replied to.

I think you ll find that the only people that r fixated on illegal immigration is the libs, not people like me.

Ramming you're opinion down my thoat will not clear anything up. Leave it at that.

You clearly want to talk about how shit the Liberal party is, but their take on illegal boat arrivals or how Labor has handled it, or what some detainee did or didn't do, is not relevant to the record numbers of (legal)migrants we've had and are projected to have, let alone does it have anything to do with cost of living etc.

Personally I think all the main parties are shit house. Bunch of self serving flogs who lost touch with reality and their constituents long ago. Politics is basically a business these days. They get into it, serve them selves and better their interests, and then walk away wealthier and better connected.

rev wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:45 pm

mattblack wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:27 pm

rev wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:23 pm

We're talking about immigration, specifically the high intake of migrants in the past 12 months and projected figures for the next 2 years. The cost of living etc.

One person is mentioning and fixated on illegal immigrants, thats you.

I doubt that this will clear it up for you.

You missed my point entirely mate. Go back and read my original post on selling a policy which I replied to.

I think you ll find that the only people that r fixated on illegal immigration is the libs, not people like me.

Ramming you're opinion down my thoat will not clear anything up. Leave it at that.

You clearly want to talk about how shit the Liberal party is, but their take on illegal boat arrivals or how Labor has handled it, or what some detainee did or didn't do, is not relevant to the record numbers of (legal)migrants we've had and are projected to have, let alone does it have anything to do with cost of living etc.

Personally I think all the main parties are shit house. Bunch of self serving flogs who lost touch with reality and their constituents long ago. Politics is basically a business these days. They get into it, serve them selves and better their interests, and then walk away wealthier and better connected.

I can only sigh when I see people parroting the party line of one of the majors they've read in their favourite paper or watched on their favourite party affiliated TV network...without an ounce of critical or independent thought.

Its tiresome to even attempt to have a political discussion with these people.

I'm not sure that my view of immigration (legal or illegal) should be bipartisan is exactly 'parroting a party line'. Not all posts that you don't agree with are, as the kids put it, 'woke' or 'leftist'.

I can only sigh when I see posts like this.

mattblack wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:20 pm

I'm not sure that my view of immigration (legal or illegal) should be bipartisan is exactly 'parroting a party line'. Not all posts that you don't agree with are, as the kids put it, 'woke' or 'leftist'.

I can only sigh when I see posts like this.

sigh...I pretty sure I made no mention of 'woke' nor 'leftist' in my previous post.

abc wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:37 am

mattblack wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:20 pm

I'm not sure that my view of immigration (legal or illegal) should be bipartisan is exactly 'parroting a party line'. Not all posts that you don't agree with are, as the kids put it, 'woke' or 'leftist'.

I can only sigh when I see posts like this.

sigh...I pretty sure I made no mention of 'woke' nor 'leftist' in my previous post.

So who are you accusing of parroting which major party line? Most of us here seem to be pushing our own views of the world and lamenting that the major parties aren't listening.

“Analysis of the national accounts figures by economists at NAB found education exports, which captures spending by international students living in Australia, was equivalent to 0.8 percentage points of annual GDP growth, or more than half the 1.5 per cent annual rate in December.”

This is why I’m extremely skeptical the coalition will cut back on international student numbers.

https://theyvoteforyou.org.au

With the federal election months away, here's something that might be useful for people.
See how your local member has voted on key issues in parliament.

Here's a useful link that can help those who are true swinging voters decide which candidates are best for them.

For those electorates with lots of candidates it can also help sort out who is who for you.

The way it works is to get you to answer a questionnaire about what you think about things like housing, immigration, the economy, or nuclear vs not. It then matches your answers with each candidate and ranks them in order of closeness.

It's particularly good for the Senate with large numbers of candidates if you vote above the line.

https://www.buildaballot.org.au/

It initially gives you a list ranked by how well each candidate represents your views. However, you can also adjust the final order if you want. Finally, you can get it sent to you, and you can use that on polling day. It's anonymous, and you can always use a service like duck.com so they don't have your email address.

Does anyone know if there is some sort of do not send register for political garbage? surely there's some AEC website/page where you can add your address for these grubs to not fill your letter box with their bullshit.

Nope. It's our "right" to receive political messaging, whether we want it or not. Aust Post themselves have been delivering some of it (see reddit thread here). Wouldn't be so bad if we had some rules around truth in political advertising but that inevitably devolves into a debate about who determines "truth", and who would enforce it. AEC don't want a bar of it so it remains in the "too hard" basket and the pollies continue to lie with impunity. Never mind - only 10 days to go!

Yeh, that sucks.

Did you know the link/site that lists all the investments and property portfolios (declared ones anyway) for each politician?
I used to have it but cant find it.

This is probably the site you're thinking of, rev?

Open Politics: https://openpolitics.au/analysis