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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#571 Post by gnrc_louis » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:33 am

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Yeah I really don't understand this. It was obviously the lesser of the two designs - crowded and unsympathetic. I'm hoping this is something Labor quietly drops after the election.
It's frustrating. They keep talking about the outcome for the community, but the only metric I can possibly see is raw "open space" percentage.

I've previously written to Malinauskas about this, back when it was first floated, and never received a reply. I struggle to see their angle, particularly when the winning proposal is far more inline with the original masterplan that was created under their watch!
“Open space” being of course in the crows bid a large expanse of grass, which the public can’t use for much of the time. Made even more absurd by the fact about 500m away there’s many large expanses of grass!

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#572 Post by Nathan » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:45 am

gnrc_louis wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:33 am
Nathan wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:26 am
Llessur2002 wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:54 am
Yeah I really don't understand this. It was obviously the lesser of the two designs - crowded and unsympathetic. I'm hoping this is something Labor quietly drops after the election.
It's frustrating. They keep talking about the outcome for the community, but the only metric I can possibly see is raw "open space" percentage.

I've previously written to Malinauskas about this, back when it was first floated, and never received a reply. I struggle to see their angle, particularly when the winning proposal is far more inline with the original masterplan that was created under their watch!
“Open space” being of course in the crows bid a large expanse of grass, which the public can’t use for much of the time. Made even more absurd by the fact about 500m away there’s many large expanses of grass!
Exactly, I feel like a broken record explaining to people in the community that it's not useful open space. It's flat, open grass, with no shading or wind protection. It's only use is for kicking a ball around, which — unless you're playing an actual game — doesn't require a full size oval. I always point to the existing sports fields in the parklands. Outside of organised games the only people that venture out into them are groundskeepers. Everyone else keeps to the edges, where there are paths, trees, shade, landscaping, etc.

And yes, we already have a large expanse of grass across the road as you say! Guess how much the soccer fields are used when the junior soccer isn't on?

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#573 Post by A-Town » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:29 pm

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Labor talking about reviewing the crows bid if elected. It’s truly the fucking turd which won’t flush.
That's nothing more than a vote grab by Labor. Let's hope nothing comes of it.

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#574 Post by Nathan » Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:49 pm

Mail drop from Malinauskas around Bowden/Brompton today:
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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#575 Post by SBD » Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:11 pm

Nathan wrote:
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Mail drop from Malinauskas around Bowden/Brompton today:

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It says "appropriate green space" twice, and only promises a review. That sounds like a big loophole to be able to say "oh yeah, nobody has a picnic in the middle of an oval, so half of that 50% green space is wasted; the 25% option with trees is better after all."

I was surprised that Labor seem to have preferred the plan that just covered over contaminated land with an oval, as it might still need to be cleaned up eventually if the oval stops being the preferred use.

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#576 Post by gnrc_louis » Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:29 pm

Nathan wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:49 pm
Mail drop from Malinauskas around Bowden/Brompton today:

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This is ridiculous. As has been said already here, no one uses these giant fucking ovals for 95% of the time, and if they really want them, go to the fucking parklands 500m away! I really hope all the contracts have been signed so the dogshit crows proposal is consigned to history where it belongs.

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#577 Post by Nathan » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:04 pm

Article is behind the paywall, but new $55m office building from Emmett. Looks to be on Park Tce between Second and Third Streets.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business ... 26bfccbcf2

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#578 Post by gnrc_louis » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:09 pm

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Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:04 pm
Article is behind the paywall, but new $55m office building from Emmett. Looks to be on Park Tce between Second and Third Streets.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business ... 26bfccbcf2

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Looks good. Was wondering what was planned for there and the neighbouring block between fourth and fifth street, any idea?

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#579 Post by Nathan » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:26 pm

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Looks good. Was wondering what was planned for there and the neighbouring block between fourth and fifth street, any idea?
No idea what's happening on the old Plant 1 site between Fourth and Fifth. I believe the lot was purchased, around the time Plant 1 was demolished, but nothing has been lodged to date.

Something needs to be announced soon (anywhere in Bowden). The billboard for the Tapestry townhouses has just been updated to say Sold Out, which means there is nothing available off the plan at the moment (the only option is E78 further up Gibson St, which is outside the project area).

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#580 Post by rev » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:45 pm

Nathan wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:04 pm
Article is behind the paywall, but new $55m office building from Emmett. Looks to be on Park Tce between Second and Third Streets.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business ... 26bfccbcf2

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Rather generic looking.

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#581 Post by jk1237 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:36 am

Nathan wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:26 pm
Something needs to be announced soon (anywhere in Bowden). The billboard for the Tapestry townhouses has just been updated to say Sold Out, which means there is nothing available off the plan at the moment (the only option is E78 further up Gibson St, which is outside the project area).
yeah this is very fustrating, each development project is sold out yet it takes so long for the next stage to move on. Renewal SA (who apparently sells the land off for each stage) needs to give the developers a push along somehow

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#582 Post by Nathan » Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:57 am

Couple of extra shots from CBRE:

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#583 Post by EBG » Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:30 pm

12/3/2022 project in second St (west) Bowden - now at level 6. please click on picture for bigger.
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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#584 Post by NTRabbit » Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:58 pm

I want to see the other proposals for the Gasworks site, because the winner is just about bereft of green space, I don't see how the additional retail and the hotel remotely fit in with any plan other than the one to help make Rob Lucas' post parliamentary life even more lucrative. It's a decision that definitely needs reviewing.

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Re: News & Developments: Bowden TOD

#585 Post by Nathan » Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:30 pm

NTRabbit wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:58 pm
I want to see the other proposals for the Gasworks site, because the winner is just about bereft of green space, I don't see how the additional retail and the hotel remotely fit in with any plan other than the one to help make Rob Lucas' post parliamentary life even more lucrative. It's a decision that definitely needs reviewing.
In the render, there's still a significant amount of public space. Some of it is paved, and not lawn, but I'm not of the belief that grass is the be all and end all of public space.
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