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Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:08 am
by bits
The Android Buy and Go app is not available yet.
Certainly sounds like a massive improvement for casual users.
As has been said adding a metro card to your Apple/Google/Samsung/whatever digital wallet should also be made possible.
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:38 am
by MT269
This makes me wonder if the actual physical card is still essential nowadays. The revenue officers/whoever don't give a rats whether or not you actually have a ticket. They only care about their pockets being replenished with $.
There should be an option to travel without a card.
Personally, I don't even understand the point of validating. The tracking chip installed in all humans by the US government should be able to be detected by the machine anyhow. With the appropriate amount deducted.
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:06 pm
by ChillyPhilly
MT269 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:38 am
This makes me wonder if the actual physical card is still essential nowadays. The revenue officers/whoever don't give a rats whether or not you actually have a ticket. They only care about their pockets being replenished with $.
There should be an option to travel without a card.
Personally, I don't even understand the point of validating.
The tracking chip installed in all humans by the US government should be able to be detected by the machine anyhow. With the appropriate amount deducted.
I agree, the cost of compliance is probably greater than the expiation notices collected.
But the part in bold, what?
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:32 am
by MT269
Unfortunately, it takes an emotional toll when running afoul of the 'law', with some.
Re the chip, use your imagination. Or you could ask them directly. They're installed by a laser at birth, whilst the mother is looking away. Only takes a few seconds.
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:07 am
by ChillyPhilly
MT269 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:32 am
Unfortunately, it takes an emotional toll when running afoul of the 'law', with some.
Re the chip, use your imagination. Or you could ask them directly. They're installed by a laser at birth, whilst the mother is looking away. Only takes a few seconds.
I'm concerned. There are no microchips.
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:29 am
by EBG
One city that relentlessly pursues fare evaders is Melbourne. Transport police inspectors in packs of up to 4 rove the tram, train and bus networks. An example was on a short bus trip from Footscray to the CBD 4 inspectors bailed a young woman from Perth, who had only been in Melbourne for less than a week, and hounded her for the entire trip and then, in spite of her protestations, they fined her more than $100.
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:03 pm
by SBD
EBG wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:29 am
One city that relentlessly pursues fare evaders is Melbourne. Transport police inspectors in packs of up to 4 rove the tram, train and bus networks. An example was on a short bus trip from Footscray to the CBD 4 inspectors bailed a young woman from Perth, who had only been in Melbourne for less than a week, and hounded her for the entire trip and then, in spite of her protestations, they fined her more than $100.
"Welcome to Melbourne"
She'll take up walking or cycling, or move on to somewhere else!
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:59 am
by PeFe
I too have had dealings with Melbourne transport inspectors.....I found them nothing more than courteous, just people doing a job.
On several occasions they have even warned people "to tap on now" saving the inspectors from paperwork and the passenger from a fine. But no you have passengers who are determined never to pay and they cop the consequences.
Public transport costs a lot of money, it is reasonable that passengers pay some proportion of that. Nothing in this world is for "free,"
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:40 pm
by 1NEEDS2POST
Norman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:10 pm
- Build a third track between Ovingham or Dudley Park and Grand Junction Road to allow express trains to pass.
If the Adelaide Hills rail bypass is built, that will free up one track between Dry Creek and the city. There's actually enough space to have two extra tracks, so there could be express tracks in both directions between Dry Creek and the city. Another one of ARTC's plans is to move the goods track from Dry Creek to Port Adelaide to over the salt pans. If that is built, then there would also be a spare track to Salisbury.
Express trains from Mawson Lakes to the city at 160 km/h would cut 13 minutes from the current travel time.
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:30 pm
by SBD
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:40 pm
Norman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:10 pm
- Build a third track between Ovingham or Dudley Park and Grand Junction Road to allow express trains to pass.
If the Adelaide Hills rail bypass is built, that will free up one track between Dry Creek and the city. There's actually enough space to have two extra tracks, so there could be express tracks in both directions between Dry Creek and the city. Another one of ARTC's plans is to move the goods track from Dry Creek to Port Adelaide to over the salt pans. If that is built, then there would also be a spare track to Salisbury.
Express trains from Mawson Lakes to the city at 160 km/h would cut 13 minutes from the current travel time.
How many level crossings remain in that section that would need to be removed to support high speed? That would have to include there being no at-grade pedestrian crossings too.
I get:
- Pedestrian south of North Adelaide station
- Hawker Street, Bowden
- Pedestrian at Avenue Road, Ovingham
- Belford Avenue
- Pedestrian crossings both ends of Dudley Park station
- Pym Street (rad and pedestrian)
- Islington Station north end
- Kilburn
- Cormack Road
- Dr Creek station
Did I miss or invent any?
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:44 pm
by PD2/20
SBD wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:30 pm
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How many level crossings remain in that section that would need to be removed to support high speed? That would have to include there being no at-grade pedestrian crossings too.
I get:
- Pedestrian south of North Adelaide station
- Hawker Street, Bowden
- Pedestrian at Avenue Road, Ovingham
- Belford Avenue
- Pedestrian crossings both ends of Dudley Park station
- Pym Street (rad and pedestrian)
- Islington Station north end
- Kilburn
- Cormack Road
- Dr Creek station
Did I miss or invent any?
Two more:
- Pedestrian at Torrens Jn
- Pedestrian crossing Ovingham south end
Re: News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy
Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 9:53 pm
by 1NEEDS2POST
Pedestrian crossings are dirt cheap to make grade separated. They could probably all be grade separated for the cost of one level crossing removal. The other advantage of building grade separated pedestrian crossings is it opens more entrances to some stations or makes connectivity with buses easier. For example, Islington could have pedestrian ramps up to Regency Road, avoiding pedestrians crossing the ARTC line and allowing pedestrians to get to Regency Road bus stops.