The latest Victorian tram order is horrendously expensive. Plus, the production rate is extremely slow. Make of that what you will.SBD wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:26 pmIf South Australia identified a need for a few new trams, was prepared to accept a new class, and wasn't rushed for quick acquisition, surely we could tack on the end of a Victorian order. Once they are ordered, we could negotiate with Victoria if we wanted a few a bit quicker and push out the end of their deliveries.rubberman wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 3:53 pmThey proposed not only a Norwood extension, but also North Adelaide and Adelink. So, it must have been way more than four trams needed. I never saw a figure, but to service all those would require more than ten trams, likely closer to twenty. I agree if it were only four trams, something temporary could be done. Although buying four trams only would be a challenge if Madrid has run out of spare Citadis. I'm sure Melbourne would sell their Citadis...to any sucker wanting to buy. I hope we wouldn't get caught though.Llessur2002 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 2:28 pm
Not that I doubt what you're saying but what was the plan for the proposed Parade extension which Labor had planned to start in 2018/19 and complete by 2020 had they won the 2018 State election? As far as I am aware that didn't include a new depot but I think an extra 4 trams were included in the costings.
Does a new depot really have to be all bells and whistles or could Morphettville support maintenance of a slightly bigger fleet if a stabling-only solution could be found somewhere along a new route? If the latter, wouldn't that be as simple as purchasing a suitable plot of land close enough to the route? Presumably it would not need to be huge if it only needs to accommodate 4 more trams as an interim measure awaiting a larger depot which would accompany future extensions and I would have thought there would likely be at least one ex-industrial (or could be made ex) site around Kent Town that might be suitable.
If it was a bigger order, we might get something better. Anyhow, a pipe dream at the moment. But I do hope it can happen and will be happy to be proven wrong.
At the moment, there seems to be plenty of vacant industrial land on Port Road where West End and Coca Cola Amatil used to be, right next to the tram line.
Back to the topic of SA politics, and that land along Port Road. The Liberals missed a golden opportunity there. Rather than build a stadium in the Parklands, redevelopment of the land across from the Parklands along Port Road would have been transformational. Change from light industry to residential usage close to the CBD along a tram line opposite a park would have been a winner. Apart from the optics of any good inner city residential development, it could have put a thousand potential Liberal voters in the area if, under the Libs it was up market. Plus, of course, developers would have been lining up in support. With none of the downside of that stadium. Plus, of course, eventually, the whole Hindmarsh area round the existing Entertainment Centre there, and along the Torrens to South Road could have become a new gentrified suburb of potential Liberal voters.
But they blew it.
I wonder if Labor might do this, fill the area with Labor voting demographics, and cement the whole area as a Labor bastion forever?