The problem is that car-parks cannot be engineered into the development. Hence, despite its prime position, without carparking, an apartment complex would be unviable (unless they were student apartments)crawf wrote:Now with these inevitable height changes, this should be another 20 or 30 metres taller. In it's current form it looks stumpy, and this is a prime location with interrupted views.
It actually would be good if it just featured apartments. My
[REJ] Gawler Chambers Redevelopment | 70m | 16lvls | Office
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
Could a developer purchase car parks in a nearby garage and meet the ACC requirements this way?
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
As I understand it, something of this sort of arrangement was come to when the apartment complex at 223 North Terrace was completed several years ago.AtD wrote:Could a developer purchase car parks in a nearby garage and meet the ACC requirements this way?
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
DAC are expected to approve this building at Thursdays Meeting.
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
I'll keep my fingers X-d - this would be the best solution to create that city boulevard feeling with a mix of heritage and something substantial behind to show we are not only looking back.Ben wrote:DAC are expected to approve this building at Thursdays Meeting.
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
Seems they have changed the document since yesterday and now the recommendation is: DEFER DECISION – pending amended plans for retention and
conservation of the eastern and western ends of the façade to North Terrace.
conservation of the eastern and western ends of the façade to North Terrace.
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
Still a few years away by the sounds of it.
OK for $30m city project
PLANS for a $30 million redevelopment of Gawler Chambers, on the corner of North Terrace and Gawler Place, have been approved by the city’s Development Assessment Commission.
The Adelaide Development Company [ADC] plans to erect a 14-storey building for office and retail space behind the century-old façade, which the company has owned since 1945.
ADC managing director Fiona Roche said project was scheduled to start in 2014.
“The redevelopment of Gawler Chambers will breathe life into this landmark location as a key link between the cultural precinct of North Terrace and Rundle Mall, and will complement other work being undertaken to enhance the city’s premier boulevard,” she said.
Ms Roche said discussions would start now with prospective tenants.
“We are creating 6200sqm of new commercial space in arguably one of the best locations in
Adelaide, so we’re expecting plenty of interest from the commercial sector as well as high-end retailers who are likely to be attracted to the ground floor tenancies.”
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
So they'll be needing a few 12 month extensions to the approval then.
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
great spot.interesting development, hopefully they get tenants.
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[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
Glad this is going ahead without any trouble.
[REJ] Re: APP: Gawler Chambers Redevelopment | 66m | 16lvls | Offi
Hopefully will see some progress soon. Also going to be quite significant height.
Type: Application Assessed on Merit
Application Number: DA/117/2011/A
Lodgement Date: 6/08/2013
Location: GAWLER CHAMBERS, 186-190 North Terrace, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Vary previous authorisation to undertake alterations to existing heritage building including works to the facade and construct 15 level office building plus basement and plantroom and retail use at ground floor - VARIATION - changes to fire stairs, revised tower entry location and lobby, include goods lift at rear, transfer slab between levels 6 & 7 and increase in building height by 3.8 m.
Applicant Name
ADELAIDE DEVELOPMENT HOLDINGS P/L
[REJ] APP: Gawler Chambers Redevelopment | 70m | 16lvls | Office
Whilst I'm all for this development and would love to see it happen (another shiny new tower on the city skyline) I'm rather concerned by the increasingly high vacancy rates in the Adelaide CBD? I know it makes for cheaper rents, however I think it currently stands at 11% or something? That's 1 in every 10 office buildings (of equal size). There's a couple of floors in my building sitting empty, it's quite a surreal sight.
I understand in Adelaide's case the bulk of this issue is basically many tenants are either consolidating or transferring from existing C and B grade stock and are 'upgrading' into either new or refurbished A or B grade stock, thus leaving the older stock empty, because noone is transferring sideways from C to C, or B to B, thus pushing up the vacancy rate up even higher.
I understand the reason for 50 Flinders Street going up, but am still suprised about that one - let alone any new DA's or revised DA's coming through for new office towers. Should this one proceed to construction stage would only compound the issue even further?
The one advantage is that in the long-term, the vacant C and B grade stock opens up oppurtunity for those buildings and sites to redevelopment potential. But I'm not counting my chickens just yet, given the rather poor, and deteriorating state of both the state and national economies at present.
I understand in Adelaide's case the bulk of this issue is basically many tenants are either consolidating or transferring from existing C and B grade stock and are 'upgrading' into either new or refurbished A or B grade stock, thus leaving the older stock empty, because noone is transferring sideways from C to C, or B to B, thus pushing up the vacancy rate up even higher.
I understand the reason for 50 Flinders Street going up, but am still suprised about that one - let alone any new DA's or revised DA's coming through for new office towers. Should this one proceed to construction stage would only compound the issue even further?
The one advantage is that in the long-term, the vacant C and B grade stock opens up oppurtunity for those buildings and sites to redevelopment potential. But I'm not counting my chickens just yet, given the rather poor, and deteriorating state of both the state and national economies at present.
Any views and opinions expressed are of my own, and do not reflect the views or opinions of any organisation of which I have an affiliation with.
[REJ] Re: APP: Gawler Chambers Redevelopment | 70m | 16lvls | Offi
This building is already empty and only adding 6000 sqm which isn't that much in the scheme of things. Anyway if they don't have tenants they won't build it.
[REJ] Re: APP: Gawler Chambers Redevelopment | 70m | 16lvls | Offi
6,000 sqm and 70m tall? Are you sure Ben? I know it's a small site... but surely it would be in the 10,000sqm range? Did you mean 16,000?Ben wrote:This building is already empty and only adding 6000 sqm which isn't that much in the scheme of things. Anyway if they don't have tenants they won't build it.
Any views and opinions expressed are of my own, and do not reflect the views or opinions of any organisation of which I have an affiliation with.
[REJ] Re: PRO: 186-190 North Tce (Gawler Chambers) 66m | 16 Lvls O
There is already a ten level empty building there Shuz so it's 6,200 sqm of "new" space.
Ben wrote:OK for $30m city project
PLANS for a $30 million redevelopment of Gawler Chambers, on the corner of North Terrace and Gawler Place, have been approved by the city’s Development Assessment Commission.
The Adelaide Development Company [ADC] plans to erect a 14-storey building for office and retail space behind the century-old façade, which the company has owned since 1945.
ADC managing director Fiona Roche said project was scheduled to start in 2014.
“The redevelopment of Gawler Chambers will breathe life into this landmark location as a key link between the cultural precinct of North Terrace and Rundle Mall, and will complement other work being undertaken to enhance the city’s premier boulevard,” she said.
Ms Roche said discussions would start now with prospective tenants.
“We are creating 6200sqm of new commercial space in arguably one of the best locations in
Adelaide, so we’re expecting plenty of interest from the commercial sector as well as high-end retailers who are likely to be attracted to the ground floor tenancies.”
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