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Re: SA Economy

#631 Post by gnrc_louis » Sat May 28, 2022 11:39 am

Some very intelligent thinkers over the years have presented their view on how to "fix' South Australia and different approaches have been tried. Perhaps it's just a very difficult thing to "fix" and I think anyone saying there's one "correct" approach that will work/a simple answer is a charlatan.

There's comparable cities in the US that have faced similar issues in their post-manufacturing economies to Adelaide, who are not in dissimilar situations to us now. I think the reality is it's just really, really difficult and probably requires trial and error, as well as a mix of approaches.

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#632 Post by rev » Tue May 31, 2022 10:13 pm

State government is apparently cutting back on the various boards with executives/ceos paid 6 figure salaries.

About time, they're a drain on tax payers.

Its unlikely but they should be looking at every department and agency, but it won't happen, with their election promises plus the TDU and Pageant all returning to pre-covid levels and the 500 returning there's going to be millions of dollars in excessive and lavish spending happening again.

I wonder if we will foot the bill for a new fleet of electric support vehicles for the Tour Down Under now that the state government has declared a climate emergency, it passed both houses.

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Re: SA Economy

#634 Post by rev » Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:29 pm

Haha major events fund $40 million.
Like I said, the splurge and waste is on.

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Re: SA Economy

#635 Post by Jaymz » Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:20 pm

One thing I do like with this budget is the $45 million to market SA tourism over the next four years. Before covid this sector was worth $8 billion a year to the SA economy, so it's a drop in the ocean compared to the benefits gained.

Before covid, SA was really starting to get its mojo going with regards to tourism. We've always underperformed compared to other states especially with overseas tourists, but we were turning that around before the disruptions.

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#636 Post by Norman » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:38 pm

Jaymz wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:20 pm
One thing I do like with this budget is the $45 million to market SA tourism over the next four years. Before covid this sector was worth $8 billion a year to the SA economy, so it's a drop in the ocean compared to the benefits gained.

Before covid, SA was really starting to get its mojo going with regards to tourism. We've always underperformed compared to other states especially with overseas tourists, but we were turning that around before the disruptions.
Hopefully there will be more funding for more projects in the future as plans, costings and business cases are drawn up. But I imagine the focus on roads over rail will continue for the foreseeable future.

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#637 Post by Jaymz » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:08 pm

Norman wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:38 pm
Jaymz wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:20 pm
One thing I do like with this budget is the $45 million to market SA tourism over the next four years. Before covid this sector was worth $8 billion a year to the SA economy, so it's a drop in the ocean compared to the benefits gained.

Before covid, SA was really starting to get its mojo going with regards to tourism. We've always underperformed compared to other states especially with overseas tourists, but we were turning that around before the disruptions.
Hopefully there will be more funding for more projects in the future as plans, costings and business cases are drawn up. But I imagine the focus on roads over rail will continue for the foreseeable future.
That $45 million is for marketing and promotion i'm pretty sure, not infrastructure. Money well spent in my eyes.

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#638 Post by Norman » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:15 pm

Jaymz wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:08 pm
Norman wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:38 pm
Jaymz wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:20 pm
One thing I do like with this budget is the $45 million to market SA tourism over the next four years. Before covid this sector was worth $8 billion a year to the SA economy, so it's a drop in the ocean compared to the benefits gained.

Before covid, SA was really starting to get its mojo going with regards to tourism. We've always underperformed compared to other states especially with overseas tourists, but we were turning that around before the disruptions.
Hopefully there will be more funding for more projects in the future as plans, costings and business cases are drawn up. But I imagine the focus on roads over rail will continue for the foreseeable future.
That $45 million is for marketing and promotion i'm pretty sure, not infrastructure. Money well spent in my eyes.
Sorry, I posted that in the wrong thread :oops:

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#639 Post by SRW » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:02 pm

Jaymz wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:08 pm
Norman wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:38 pm
Jaymz wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:20 pm
One thing I do like with this budget is the $45 million to market SA tourism over the next four years. Before covid this sector was worth $8 billion a year to the SA economy, so it's a drop in the ocean compared to the benefits gained.

Before covid, SA was really starting to get its mojo going with regards to tourism. We've always underperformed compared to other states especially with overseas tourists, but we were turning that around before the disruptions.
Hopefully there will be more funding for more projects in the future as plans, costings and business cases are drawn up. But I imagine the focus on roads over rail will continue for the foreseeable future.
That $45 million is for marketing and promotion i'm pretty sure, not infrastructure. Money well spent in my eyes.
I tend to agree. It staggers me that festival time in Adelaide barely registers interstate when it's our key differentiator. SA tourism promotion has traditionally focused on the regions, which are great. World Heritage Listing the Flinders Rangers will further enhance that strength. But in a broader state strategy, building Adelaide's 'cool factor' should matter more.
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Re: SA Economy

#640 Post by Nathan » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:30 pm

Our festivals struggle on the “cool factor”, despite their quality. I think the way we brand them does a disservice — the Fringe always has it’s hokey (and exploitive) “competition”, and the Adelaide Festival has retreated into blandness throughout the current directors’ tenure (we did have some good years during the Sefton era engaging some quality local design studios). Compare them to the likes of Dark Mofo or Vivid, and they’re lacking that X factor.

Some of it is part of the dumb cross shit-bagging that goes on in this country. There’s plenty of instances of festivals in smaller cities that are celebrated and embraced by their entire country when you look around the world, but the “good things only happen in Sydney or Melbourne” factor is very strong here.

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#641 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:42 pm

rubberman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:22 pm
The State Budget is up.

https://www.statebudget.sa.gov.au/budget-papers

Enjoy!
Budget paper 3, table 2.5 says employee expenses will be $9,384 million plus $1,225 million in superannuation in 2023. Table 2.9 says we will have 87,704 full time equivalent employees in 2023. This means the average public servant is paid $106,996 plus $13,967 in superannuation. Keep that in mind next time you hear public servants saying they can get more in the private sector.

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Re: SA Economy

#642 Post by gnrc_louis » Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:52 pm

1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:42 pm
rubberman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:22 pm
The State Budget is up.

https://www.statebudget.sa.gov.au/budget-papers

Enjoy!
Budget paper 3, table 2.5 says employee expenses will be $9,384 million plus $1,225 million in superannuation in 2023. Table 2.9 says we will have 87,704 full time equivalent employees in 2023. This means the average public servant is paid $106,996 plus $13,967 in superannuation. Keep that in mind next time you hear public servants saying they can get more in the private sector.
If that 87,704 figure includes medical specialists, then that would skew the average wage massively. Also, $106,996 equates roughly to an AS07 classification and they certainly aren't the "average" level of public servant in many of the departments. Instead, that's at the more senior end of the employee spectrum with considerable experience.

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Re: SA Economy

#643 Post by Jaymz » Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:00 am

1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:42 pm
rubberman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:22 pm
The State Budget is up.

https://www.statebudget.sa.gov.au/budget-papers

Enjoy!
Budget paper 3, table 2.5 says employee expenses will be $9,384 million plus $1,225 million in superannuation in 2023. Table 2.9 says we will have 87,704 full time equivalent employees in 2023. This means the average public servant is paid $106,996 plus $13,967 in superannuation. Keep that in mind next time you hear public servants saying they can get more in the private sector.

It's true. In very rough figures, South Australian public sector is about 16% of total people employed, while the Australian average (mainland) is around 13% total employed. 3% doesn't sound like a lot, but it actually represents 20 or 30 thousand ppl that wouldn't be employed in the public sector if we were at the national average.

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#644 Post by Ben » Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:56 am

I know someone who was hired in the education department last year as 1 of 12 new starters earning well over $100k each. They have been told to stay home and look busy as there is no work for them. They go out to coffee, gym even has a second job on the side. The whole public service is a joke and needs to be overhuled. The amount of money being wasted on people doing nothing is disgraceful, unfortuntly i think this will be worse under a Labor government but will give them an opportunity.

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#645 Post by [Shuz] » Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:07 pm

That's been happening for years, if not decades. Nothings changed. The public sector is a joke in some departments.
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