[CAN] 1-8 North Terrace | 108m | 2 x 32 Levels | Apartments

[Nort]

Pretty stupid to think that because it's three quarters the height it should be three quarters the cost. How tall should the new RAH be then?

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For a rough ballpark comparison for two buildings where the floors are regular and repeat most elements it seems a lot less stupid than trying to compare a residential/hotel tower to a state of the art medical facility but you do you.

No but the fittings and finishes are the ultimate determinant
And we were comparing two projects of primarily the same purpose
So dumb

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If it's stupid and dumb to compare the prices of different buildings with similar purposes then why did you start doing it?

Or perhaps you could share the smarter criteria you use to judge the costs.

[citywatcher]

For a rough ballpark comparison for two buildings where the floors are regular and repeat most elements it seems a lot less stupid than trying to compare a residential/hotel tower to a state of the art medical facility but you do you.

No but the fittings and finishes are the ultimate determinant
And we were comparing two projects of primarily the same purpose
So dumb

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If it's stupid and dumb to compare the prices of different buildings with similar purposes then why did you start doing it?

Or perhaps you could share the smarter criteria you use to judge the costs.

Cos you said you can't compare hospitals with apartment towers and associated costs thereof.
Someone else mentioned that you compare the costs of like buildings by comparing their overall size in comparison
I disagreed with this observation
By comparing the costs of buildings for various purposes and their relative sizes to each other I showed as I initially said that it comes down to fittings , materials and finishings.

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[Norman]

Thread cleaned up. Let's keep it civil, less swearing and no personal attacks please

[PeFe]

Approved !

From In Daily

Twin towers set to soar above heritage-listed hotel
NEWS
The state’s key planning body has approved a project to build two 32-storey towers behind the heritage-listed Newmarket Hotel on the corner of North and West Terrace, despite them standing 65m higher than the recommended local limit and forcing a change to the flight path of incoming aircraft.

The State Commission Assessment Panel last week granted development plan consent for developers One North Terrace Pty Ltd to push ahead with the project subject to development approval from Adelaide City Council and a series of conditions from the Department of Environment and Water.

The mixed-used towers, designed by Cox Architecture, are comprised of six ground-floor retail tenancies, five floors of office space and 352 residential and serviced apartments.

They will stand at 107 metres tall at the corner of North and West Terrace, adjacent to the Royal Adelaide Hospital and biomedical precinct.

The development will also restore the 138-year-old Newmarket Hotel but will see the demolition of its two-storey side wing, an adjacent outbuilding and connecting yard wall – all of which are part of the building’s state heritage listing.

Adjacent to the hotel is the former home of the HQ Complex nightclub, which vacated the site in 2017.

The developers plan to restore the three-storey hotel into a restaurant and cafe lounge with multipurpose commercial spaces and function rooms on level one and two.

Their construction work on the site will also involve salvaging “all materials for reuse in the retention and rehabilitation of the external fabric of the State heritage listed Newmarket Hotel building”.

Full article : https://indaily.com.au/news/2021/08/03/ ... ted-hotel/

[[Shuz]]

Curious to know if the PANSOPS increase of 21.3m is a universal increase across all flight zones, or just to this particular zone?

The Masonic Lodge proposal likely hasn't factored in the change to flight paths as a result of this development and thus could go up to 181m.

Nobody seems to have answered this question yet... feel like it got overlooked...

[Nort]

Curious to know if the PANSOPS increase of 21.3m is a universal increase across all flight zones, or just to this particular zone?

The Masonic Lodge proposal likely hasn't factored in the change to flight paths as a result of this development and thus could go up to 181m.

Nobody seems to have answered this question yet... feel like it got overlooked...

More likely no-one outside the discussions knows yet since the changes are still in discussion.

[Smithy84]

This site is being sold and will hit the market soon.

Hopefully snapped up by someone who will actually realise its potential.

[floplo]

This site is being sold and will hit the market soon.

Hopefully snapped up by someone who will actually realise its potential.

Sure about that? Isn't the site of the bankrupt real estate guy next door to this?

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[Llessur2002]

This site is being sold and will hit the market soon.

Hopefully snapped up by someone who will actually realise its potential.

Sure about that? Isn't the site of the bankrupt real estate guy next door to this?

From the Advertiser article, it's the neighbouring site:

Receivers have been appointed to sell off the landmark carpark and development site that wraps around the historic Newmarket Hotel on the corner of North Tce and West Tce in the city’s northwestern corner.


Artist’s impression of the 2013 hotel and office block development proposed for the land around the Newmarket Hotel.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business ... e0bdee37fa

[Algernon]

This site is being sold and will hit the market soon.

Hopefully snapped up by someone who will actually realise its potential.

How do you define potential?

For me, I can't think of a worse place to live in the city centre.

[NTRabbit]

This site is being sold and will hit the market soon.

Hopefully snapped up by someone who will actually realise its potential.

How do you define potential?

For me, I can't think of a worse place to live in the city centre.

I mean, anything other than another concrete multistory car park has to be an improvement

[Ben]

This site is being sold and will hit the market soon.

Hopefully snapped up by someone who will actually realise its potential.

How do you define potential?

For me, I can't think of a worse place to live in the city centre.

Tram stop out the front direct to the mall, markets and botanic gardens. I could certainly think of worse places.

[SRW]

Perfect piece of the pie for a Women's & Children's Hospital...

But aside that, there's much greater potential here than the prior proposal.

[SBD]

Perfect piece of the pie for a Women's & Children's Hospital...

But aside that, there's much greater potential here than the prior proposal.

I agree about the WCH.

It would also be ideal for medium length stay for country people who have to come to Adelaide for medical treatment or to accompany/visit family in the hospitals.

[flat04]

Adelaide Now has an article stating the site has been sold to Australian Unity in a '$38.5m deal'. 'The property will be placed into an unlisted healthcare property trust.'
So I guess it won't get the apartment towers after all.....