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Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:25 pm
by Norman
I don't understand that post rev. State government has no influence on immigration policy.

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:57 pm
by SBD
Norman wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:25 pm
I don't understand that post rev. State government has no influence on immigration policy.
Immigration policy is a Federal issue, however the state government could do things to attract or repel migrants to settle here instead of interstate. SA is about to lose one seat in the House of Representatives because our population is not growing as fast as the other states. We need to keep the people who were born here, and attract a greater share of the ones who weren't. Some of that might be as simple as advertising in the right places, but it probably goes deeper than that.

Another key point is encouraging more of the state's population to move out of the Adelaide metro area. The state population is extremely focused on one city - the one that other threads complain is expanding to cover our productive market gardens, vineyards and farmland. The second-largest urban centre in South Australia is Gawler, and it ranks 47th nationally. The only other one in SA in the top 50 is Mount Gambier at #48. The top 50 includes 19 in NSW, and 11 each in Vic and Qld. What makes Launceston more attractive than Mount Gambier, or Mildura than Berri?

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:14 am
by monotonehell
SBD wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:57 pm
Norman wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:25 pm
I don't understand that post rev. State government has no influence on immigration policy.
Immigration policy is a Federal issue, however the state government could do things to attract or repel migrants to settle here instead of interstate. SA is about to lose one seat in the House of Representatives because our population is not growing as fast as the other states. We need to keep the people who were born here, and attract a greater share of the ones who weren't. Some of that might be as simple as advertising in the right places, but it probably goes deeper than that.

Another key point is encouraging more of the state's population to move out of the Adelaide metro area. The state population is extremely focused on one city - the one that other threads complain is expanding to cover our productive market gardens, vineyards and farmland. The second-largest urban centre in South Australia is Gawler, and it ranks 47th nationally. The only other one in SA in the top 50 is Mount Gambier at #48. The top 50 includes 19 in NSW, and 11 each in Vic and Qld. What makes Launceston more attractive than Mount Gambier, or Mildura than Berri?
And with barely 3km separating the built up areas of Evanston and Munno Para, Gawler is pretty much part of Greater Adelaide Metro area anyway.

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:43 pm
by SRW
Waewick wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:35 pm
SRW wrote:SA Labor has championed the Northern Adelaide Irrigation Scheme, which will add far more value to the state’s agricultural industry than $1.2 million for marketing. Not to say those funds aren’t also needed, but it’s pretty blinded to conclude the Liberals have a better plan for farming/food production.
Again, the Northern irrigation scheme is in city limits. Also in Labor territory.
Partisan territory or not, it's where the majority of the state's horticultural industry is based and it's not being ignored. Nor further afield, with Labor's proposal for a deep water port on the Eyre Peninsular to boost mining and agricultural exports.

In other news, looks like EastLink is funded though I remain cautious until I see a project timeline: ABC News: Labor promises $279 million to take trams up The Parade to Norwood
Perhaps not indicative of finished product, but sure to displease Rubberman, the render on Weatherill's Facebook is of centre platform stops.

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:25 pm
by SBD
Is the "deepwater port" on Eyre peninsula proposed to be for export of bulk commodities only, or will it be capable of containers and inbound general freight as well as outbound?

I don't know how much inbound sea freight we receive in the state now, and even less how much of it ends up on Eyre Peninsula. It seems like having a capability could lead to new industry setting up there that otherwise needs to be closer to the container or general port. General things could be components for wind turbines. Outbound I believe we export some minerals, hay and some specialty grains in containers.

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:41 pm
by Norman
Old RAH: Liberal Government would appoint chief entrepreneur to oversee start-up business, innovation hub
Daniel Wills, State Political Editor, The Advertiser
20 minutes ago

SOUTH Australia would appoint a “chief entrepreneur” to oversee creation of an innovation and start-up business hub in a historic corner of the old Royal Adelaide Hospital, under a plan Opposition Leader Steven Marshall says will drive jobs.

Parts of the 7ha old RAH site are in the midst of demolition, after the State Government completed its shift to the $2.3 billion new building in September.

Labor has already pledged plans for a tech hub focused on selected industries including artificial intelligence and energy.

Mr Marshall told The Advertiser his full vision for the site would be revealed in coming weeks, but it would include the anchor of a start-up hub in the south-western corner.

He said the Liberal plan was a dramatic departure from Labor’s, and having the precinct overseen by a chief entrepreneur at arm’s length from the government was the best way to ensure the site became a place for true job creation rather than a factory for “press releases”. “The old RAH site is the most incredible opportunity for a city like Adelaide,” Mr Marshall said.

“The Liberal Party has an ambition to make Adelaide the start-up capital of the nation.

“Successful hubs around the world move away from ‘siloed’ buildings dedicated to individual areas of speciality,” he said.

“We want to have the gamers and the coders and the crypto people and the tech start-ups and the creative industries all co-located and collaborating.”

He said it was critical that the plan for a physical innovation hub be matched with a start-up “ecosystem” that included slashing payroll tax and regulation for small business.

It would also include a packed agenda of business and cultural events at the old RAH to regularly bring creative people and entrepreneurs together for collaboration.

“We will start this immediately, with the adaptive reuse of the southwestern corner of the old RAH site,” he said.

“This will be a priority for the first 100 days of a Liberal government. We would hit the ground running, recruiting the board and chief entrepreneur.”

He said the amount of site taken up for start-ups could expand based on industry demand.

Mr Marshall said “phase one” of the plan would get $27 million in taxpayer cash over four years, including construction costs and developing support for the chief entrepreneur.

Mr Marshall visited Brighton Surf Life Saving Club with deputy federal Liberal leader Julie Bishop on Sunday to announce a policy to give volunteers free background screening checks.

Policy police

What: Liberals want a start-up business and innovation hub at the old Royal Adelaide Hospital.

How: $27 million for building and investment, managed at arm’s length of government.

Pub test: Model has been successful elsewhere, but proof for SA would be in the pudding.

Other proposals for the former Royal Adelaide Hospital site:

An artificial intelligence institute

Accommodation for Fringe artists

An urban landscape for military drills

Not this $1 billion apartment deal

Secret plan for contemporary art gallery at old RAH

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:12 pm
by Nathan
"and the crypto people" :lol:

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:30 pm
by Nort
Nathan wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:12 pm
"and the crypto people" :lol:
Yeah. I was actually reading all of that thinking it sounded like good policy then got to the "crypto people" mention and all of a sudden it comes off as just reciting buzzwords with no confidence they've actually asked what the various startup areas want/need.

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:32 am
by rev
Crypto as in cryptography?
If so I don’t know why you’re laughing, we call ourselves the defence state, secure communications for military personnel is extremely important.

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:41 am
by Goodsy
rev wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:32 am
Crypto as in cryptography?
If so I don’t know why you’re laughing, we call ourselves the defence state, secure communications for military personnel is extremely important.
crypto as in cryptocurrency.. the umbrella term for Bitcoin and every other coin that's out there

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:29 am
by mshagg
Nathan wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:12 pm
"and the crypto people" :lol:
"Whatamigonnado!"

I like the idea of an innovation hub there but the lack of supporting narrative from the Libs makes it all sound a bit shallow. "We're getting slaughtered in the young demographic, announce something bitcoin related".. but also abandon the renewal energy target and bitch about traffic and parking any chance you get.

Something like this would tie in nicely with, oh I dunno, a gigabit fibre network... or public transport infrastructure that runs literally to the front door of the site.

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:23 pm
by Waewick
SRW wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:43 pm
Waewick wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:35 pm
SRW wrote:SA Labor has championed the Northern Adelaide Irrigation Scheme, which will add far more value to the state’s agricultural industry than $1.2 million for marketing. Not to say those funds aren’t also needed, but it’s pretty blinded to conclude the Liberals have a better plan for farming/food production.
Again, the Northern irrigation scheme is in city limits. Also in Labor territory.
Partisan territory or not, it's where the majority of the state's horticultural industry is based and it's not being ignored. Nor further afield, with Labor's proposal for a deep water port on the Eyre Peninsular to boost mining and agricultural exports.

wait what? you think the most of SA's horticulture is based in the city limits, can you provide the supporting information to back this up?

the port is another promise, lets see if it is completed.

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:44 pm
by rev
Goodsy wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:41 am
rev wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:32 am
Crypto as in cryptography?
If so I don’t know why you’re laughing, we call ourselves the defence state, secure communications for military personnel is extremely important.
crypto as in cryptocurrency.. the umbrella term for Bitcoin and every other coin that's out there
Yeh, you sure about that?
“We want to have the gamers and the coders and the crypto people and the tech start-ups and the creative industries all co-located and collaborating.”
Cryptocurrency doesn't really fit in that theme..

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:35 pm
by Goodsy
rev wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:44 pm
Goodsy wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:41 am
rev wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:32 am
Crypto as in cryptography?
If so I don’t know why you’re laughing, we call ourselves the defence state, secure communications for military personnel is extremely important.
crypto as in cryptocurrency.. the umbrella term for Bitcoin and every other coin that's out there
Yeh, you sure about that?
“We want to have the gamers and the coders and the crypto people and the tech start-ups and the creative industries all co-located and collaborating.”
Cryptocurrency doesn't really fit in that theme..
I am absolutely 100% certain that they are talking about cryptocurrency and not cryptography, there is a huge bleed over between the three.

Re: 2018 South Australian State Election

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:13 pm
by Ben
Does anyone else think Marshall/Libs have been unusually quiet. Its less than 3 weeks now to polling and nothing too much has been announced. They might be waiting till the end to have it in peoples memories as they turn up to voting booths but postal voting has already started. Maybe they thought it was a done deal for them to take power.