[APP] 75-79 King William Street | 124m | 36 Levels | Wyndham Grand Hotel

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#256 Post by Algernon » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:06 pm

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The best thing about this development is that it's quite unique. It's quite difficult to compare it to anything in Australia.
I'll give it a shot.

Build Riparian Plaza out of glass.

Bing.

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#257 Post by Mpol02 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:04 am

This is hardly unique.
Maybe for Adelaide with the curved facade?

What worries me most is the multi coloured see through glass. Why can’t the level of finish be something akin to the casino or Realm or Franklin at? Let’s hope.

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#258 Post by HiTouch » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:04 am

Algernon wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:06 pm
HiTouch wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:41 pm
The best thing about this development is that it's quite unique. It's quite difficult to compare it to anything in Australia.
I'll give it a shot.

Build Riparian Plaza out of glass.

Bing.
Fine I owe you a coke. I did a total 15 minutes of looking and couldn’t find anything

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#259 Post by Ben » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:16 pm

The revised plan is going before the scap on Wednesday and expected to be approved.

It has 36 levels and is 123.5m high.

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#260 Post by timtam20292 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:03 pm

Some extra height, nothing wrong with that :)

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#261 Post by Mpol02 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:47 pm

Praying that whatever materials they use aren’t being down graded, as is often the case.
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#262 Post by baytram366 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:54 pm

I'm normally a fan of retaining vintage / retro buildings but in this case, the current building has no redeeming qualities and as every day passes, it gets vandalized more and more and fills with bird poo. Has anyone else noticed that one of the vent / drawer type things facing Currie St has been open for quite a while and a big pile of crap has collected on the floor inside the building? Add to that the temp fencing around it, its not a good look for the city. I hope demolition of this building happens soon as the plan for the new building looks great. Very exciting to see something with a curved facade in Adelaide. We have far too many boxy buildings going up currently so it will be good to see something different.
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#263 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:03 pm

baytram366 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:54 pm
I'm normally a fan of retaining vintage / retro buildings but in this case, the current building has no redeeming qualities and as every day passes, it gets vandalized more and more and fills with bird poo. Has anyone else noticed that one of the vent / drawer type things facing Currie St has been open for quite a while and a big pile of crap has collected on the floor inside the building? Add to that the temp fencing around it, its not a good look for the city. I hope demolition of this building happens soon as the plan for the new building looks great. Very exciting to see something with a curved facade in Adelaide. We have far too many boxy buildings going up currently so it will be good to see something different.
I don't believe there is a single person on this forum or beyond (and that includes those heritage advocates such as myself) that want to see the existing building on this site retained or incorporated into the new building... Now if it were the previous Bank of Australia building that once occupied the site then absolutely but that was pulled down for the pile of crap that's there now. I suspect that the curvature in the design of the proposed hotel building proposed for this site is paying some homage to the aforementioned Bank of Australia building (pictured below) anyway...
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#264 Post by Nort » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:13 am

baytram366 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:54 pm
Has anyone else noticed that one of the vent / drawer type things facing Currie St has been open for quite a while and a big pile of crap has collected on the floor inside the building?
I love that popped open panel. It's been like that for at least 2 years, and makes the building look like a spring loaded toy. :lol:

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#265 Post by d3v310per » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:26 am

Nort wrote:
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I love that popped open panel. It's been like that for at least 2 years, and makes the building look like a spring loaded toy. :lol:
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#266 Post by gnrc_louis » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:53 pm

Can someone please post the The Advertiser article about the government architect being worried (wtf???) about this one due to the curve. Thanks.

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#267 Post by how good is he » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:14 pm

Design for King William St hotel goes to State Commission Assessment Panel
Planned for a very prominent intersection in the city centre, a 36-storey hotel must look the part. SA’s top architect isn’t quite convinced.

The design for a 36-storey hotel on one of Adelaide’s most prominent locations needs refinement of its signature corner, the Government Architect says.

The development also needs bicycle parking spaces, the State Commission Assessment Panel has been told ahead of its meeting on Wednesday to discuss the project.

The $150m development on the corner of King William and Currie streets is intended to become a luxury hotel operated by the Wyndham group.

Government Architect Kirsteen Mackay said she was not satisfied the corner facing the intersection made the transition from being rectangular for the lower three storeys to curved for the next seven storeys in an aesthetically pleasing way.

She “remained unconvinced” about a square grid structure above the rectangular section, which would stick out for the next three storeys which would be curved. That curved portion would have central infill panels made of copper.

“In my opinion, inclusion of the competing elements does not convincingly convey the conceptual design intent and dilutes the corner expression,” Ms Mackay said in a report to the panel.

Overall, she supported the project although she would like some exploration of providing more meaningful weather protection for passing pedestrians.

The project has been proposed by Adelaide-based developers GuavaLime and related architectural practice Loucas Zahos in partnership with Equinox Property.

No car or bicycle parking is included but a report to SCAP by its senior planning officer, Elysse Kuhar, says bicycle parking should be included at a ratio of 10 spaces for hotel guests and one for every 20 staff.

Her report recommends any approval by the panel impose a reserve for further assessment on the bicycle parking and the detail on external materials and finishes.

The 123.5m tall building passes aircraft traffic, wind, vehicle traffic management, waste control and other considerations, SCAP has been told.

The hotel would have 347 rooms with Levels 29 and 30 being luxury and presidential suites.

Level 10 would have an executive lounge and wellness centre and Level 31 a recreation deck, spa, pool, gym, bar and dining area.

There would be restaurants on levels 1 and 32 and function rooms on level 2.

Wyndham Hotels & Resorts Asia Pacific president Joon Aun Ooi previously told The Advertiser the company was impressed by recent investments in South Australia, including the airport and Adelaide Oval.

“Wyndham Grand is known for its iconic locations, so I can think of no better way to introduce the brand to Australia,” he said.

The existing building, which formerly included the Adelaide Metro information office on the ground floor, would be demolished.

Construction would take about four years.

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#268 Post by HiTouch » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:51 pm

Agree with the pedestrian weatherproofing idea however, is this the lady that is responsible for letting the way mouth cheese and shitty student accommodation on North Terrace get the green light? If so, she should have no say in what is tasteful. I bet her home has plaid drapes with brown carpet.

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#269 Post by Norman » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:40 pm

HiTouch wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:51 pm
Agree with the pedestrian weatherproofing idea however, is this the lady that is responsible for letting the way mouth cheese and shitty student accommodation on North Terrace get the green light? If so, she should have no say in what is tasteful. I bet her home has plaid drapes with brown carpet.
The government architect doesn't give approvals or rejections, they simply make comments and recommendations that should be taken aboard when the panel or approving officer makes the final decision to approve or reject a development.

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#270 Post by noted » Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:27 am

I think she is spot on- that square grid is very clunky. Other than that its a decent design, so if they can fix it and the weather proofing up at this early stage then it is a promising sign of the system working exactly as it should.

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