New City Arena

[Spotto]

Nee stadium for Tassie if the AFL grants them an AFL license.
27,000 capacity.
AFL sized stadium, obviously.
What are they proposing here for nearly $700 million that's for sports that use playing areas not even half an AFL oval? Gold plated toilets?

Either Marshall has severely overestimated the cost of his stadium, or Gutwein has severely underestimated the cost of his stadium.

Or more likely, both have severely underestimated the cost to different degrees.

[Waewick]

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Nee stadium for Tassie if the AFL grants them an AFL license.
27,000 capacity.
AFL sized stadium, obviously.
What are they proposing here for nearly $700 million that's for sports that use playing areas not even half an AFL oval? Gold plated toilets?

No roof ? (Thats a guess )

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[VinyTapestry849]

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Nee stadium for Tassie if the AFL grants them an AFL license.
27,000 capacity.
AFL sized stadium, obviously.
What are they proposing here for nearly $700 million that's for sports that use playing areas not even half an AFL oval? Gold plated toilets?

Tassie's new stadium will be barely economically viable. Adelaide oval cost $450m (nearly half of what is being proposed) and its the most praised venue in the country. So what is $700m going to get you, robot staff & cushioned seats? If it's got a retractable roof then that explains it.

[Ben]

Its a retractible roofed stadium with a capacity of 27,000. I think the comparison was with our 16,000 closed roof stadium at around the same cost....

[gnrc_louis]

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Nee stadium for Tassie if the AFL grants them an AFL license.
27,000 capacity.
AFL sized stadium, obviously.
What are they proposing here for nearly $700 million that's for sports that use playing areas not even half an AFL oval? Gold plated toilets?

Tassie's new stadium will be barely economically viable, not even half the capacity of the AO as you said. What are they thinking? Adelaide oval cost $450m and its the most praised venue in the country. So what is $700m going to get you, titanium roof? Robot staff? Cushioned and heated seats???

The amount of seats would correlate with the population of Tasmania. A constantly half empty 50,000 stadium would have a terrible atmosphere. Bigger is certainly not always better with stadiums.

[VinyTapestry849]

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Nee stadium for Tassie if the AFL grants them an AFL license.
27,000 capacity.
AFL sized stadium, obviously.
What are they proposing here for nearly $700 million that's for sports that use playing areas not even half an AFL oval? Gold plated toilets?

Tassie's new stadium will be barely economically viable, not even half the capacity of the AO as you said. What are they thinking? Adelaide oval cost $450m and its the most praised venue in the country. So what is $700m going to get you, titanium roof? Robot staff? Cushioned and heated seats???

The amount of seats would correlate with the population of Tasmania. A constantly half empty 50,000 stadium would have a terrible atmosphere. Bigger is certainly not always better with stadiums.

I agree with that corresponding fact with the population and capacity of the stadium may not be filled, but If Tasmania wants a thriving AFL club they'll have to do better. The crows and power have many games at the Adelaide oval per year, consistently getting 40,000+ per match, and still have financial problems. Tassie will have a really tough time with finances if they're only getting ticket sales of below 20,000 per match, let alone have the money to start merchandise to help to fund. And that's only if the Tasmanian public get behind it. I do support them though. Its about time they have a team.

[ChillyPhilly]

Hopefully Tasmania make it convertible to a rectangular configuration.

[rev]

Tassie's new stadium will be barely economically viable, not even half the capacity of the AO as you said. What are they thinking? Adelaide oval cost $450m and its the most praised venue in the country. So what is $700m going to get you, titanium roof? Robot staff? Cushioned and heated seats???

The amount of seats would correlate with the population of Tasmania. A constantly half empty 50,000 stadium would have a terrible atmosphere. Bigger is certainly not always better with stadiums.

I agree with that corresponding fact with the population and capacity of the stadium may not be filled, but If Tasmania wants a thriving AFL club they'll have to do better. The crows and power have many games at the Adelaide oval per year, consistently getting 40,000+ per match, and still have financial problems. Tassie will have a really tough time with finances if they're only getting ticket sales of below 20,000 per match, let alone have the money to start merchandise to help to fund. And that's only if the Tasmanian public get behind it. I do support them though. Its about time they have a team.

There's a lot more to it then how many people come through the gates/tickets sold. But that's another story for another thread.
Tassie will do fine.

[Nort]

Tassie's new stadium will be barely economically viable, not even half the capacity of the AO as you said. What are they thinking? Adelaide oval cost $450m and its the most praised venue in the country. So what is $700m going to get you, titanium roof? Robot staff? Cushioned and heated seats???

The amount of seats would correlate with the population of Tasmania. A constantly half empty 50,000 stadium would have a terrible atmosphere. Bigger is certainly not always better with stadiums.

I agree with that corresponding fact with the population and capacity of the stadium may not be filled, but If Tasmania wants a thriving AFL club they'll have to do better. The crows and power have many games at the Adelaide oval per year, consistently getting 40,000+ per match, and still have financial problems. Tassie will have a really tough time with finances if they're only getting ticket sales of below 20,000 per match, let alone have the money to start merchandise to help to fund. And that's only if the Tasmanian public get behind it. I do support them though. Its about time they have a team.

Tasmania has a population of half a million, greater Hobart has a population of a quarter million, it seems at the right scale for that.

[JCK98]

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Nee stadium for Tassie if the AFL grants them an AFL license.
27,000 capacity.
AFL sized stadium, obviously.
What are they proposing here for nearly $700 million that's for sports that use playing areas not even half an AFL oval? Gold plated toilets?

Tassie's new stadium will be barely economically viable. Adelaide oval cost $450m (nearly half of what is being proposed) and its the most praised venue in the country. So what is $700m going to get you, robot staff & cushioned seats? If it's got a retractable roof then that explains it.

$450m for the Southern stand, Eastern stand and Northern hill works; $5m for the Western stand upgrades for 2014; $30m for the parklands around it; $40m for the footbridge and SACA's debt of $85m got cleared as well. All up that project cost $610m. https://indaily.com.au/news/2014/05/07 ... wrap-610m/

Western Stand which was rebuild for 2010-11 cost $116m (including $25m funding from both state and federal governments).
So ended up being about $640m all up without including SACA's debt a lot of which they probably acquired redeveloping the western stands.

[A-Town]

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Nee stadium for Tassie if the AFL grants them an AFL license.
27,000 capacity.
AFL sized stadium, obviously.
What are they proposing here for nearly $700 million that's for sports that use playing areas not even half an AFL oval? Gold plated toilets?

It will have a retractable roof, retractable seats and will require land reclamation. Expensive yes, but will be great for Hobart.

[Patrick_27]

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Nee stadium for Tassie if the AFL grants them an AFL license.
27,000 capacity.
AFL sized stadium, obviously.
What are they proposing here for nearly $700 million that's for sports that use playing areas not even half an AFL oval? Gold plated toilets?

It will have a retractable roof, retractable seats and will require land reclamation. Expensive yes, but will be great for Hobart.

Conceptually, I love this for Hobart. I just wish the design was more in keeping with the Hobart surrounds. Something like Westpac Stadium in Wellington.

[NTRabbit]

I imagine some of the high price for the Hobart stadium compared to AO is that they're building it half over the water in the Derwent

[Jaymz]

I agree with that corresponding fact with the population and capacity of the stadium may not be filled, but If Tasmania wants a thriving AFL club they'll have to do better. The crows and power have many games at the Adelaide oval per year, consistently getting 40,000+ per match, and still have financial problems. Tassie will have a really tough time with finances if they're only getting ticket sales of below 20,000 per match, let alone have the money to start merchandise to help to fund. And that's only if the Tasmanian public get behind it. I do support them though. Its about time they have a team.
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I have always thought that Tassie deserves to have a team in the AFL. The argument that they need to get 20,000+ to the games to be financially viable is questionable, but I doubt the Gold Coast Suns have ever had more than 10,000 attend any of their games regularly since their inception. The difference is the AFL has been propping GC up both financially and with priority draft picks ever since they started and they've not once made a finals series. I would say the same is true for Greater Western Sydney, but at least in their case they've been more than competitive, playing in multiple finals series and a Grand Final in 2019. Tasmania should feel hard done by if they are not granted a license because I think that after a few seasons they could stand on their own two feet financially and the locals would support their team by actually attending matches.

[PeFe]

All this talk of a new AFL stadium in Hobart, an new Tassie team etc should be its own thread in the "Beyond South Australia" section.....the New City Arena discussion has been totally derailed.