[COM] Adelaide Oval Redevelopment
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
I reckon, awesome panoramic shot! The Adelaide Oval's really beginning to look like a proper Stadium now!
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[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
Love these recent photos from flickr ... more photos in the user's photostream:
Adelaide Oval WIP-155.jpg by Steve _ Beaumont, on Flickr
Adelaide Oval WIP-124.jpg by Steve _ Beaumont, on Flickr
Adelaide Oval WIP-155.jpg by Steve _ Beaumont, on Flickr
Adelaide Oval WIP-124.jpg by Steve _ Beaumont, on Flickr
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
I'm curious - is there a reason for the large gaps in between the grandstands?
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[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
I'm guessing by the looks of it they will finish the ends of the stands last for easier access into the arena for construction. they will be quite large gaps between the stands when completed though because the video screens will be in place between the stands. the gaps will be smaller than they currently are by looking at the renders.[Shuz] wrote:I'm curious - is there a reason for the large gaps in between the grandstands?
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
It's a deliberate attempt to keep a cricket ground feel to the place rather than have a continuous concrete bowl. The idea is to have three separate and somewhat distinct stands.
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
Yes. We do not want or need to be an MCG clone.Pants wrote:It's a deliberate attempt to keep a cricket ground feel to the place rather than have a continuous concrete bowl. The idea is to have three separate and somewhat distinct stands.
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
Pants, i am not sure of your expaination here. Is there evidence of this in the design brief? Certainly the Western stand is different because it is already there, and will be the smallest of the three. My understanding is that the Southern stand is the largent is because it has the most room to expand behind it. The Eastern stand is larger than the existing Western stand, but also smaller than the southern Stand due to a lack of room between the oval and KW Rd and provision for transit zone etc. I do have concerns that the gaps between the stands and the open Northern end will result in a loss of atmosphere (crowd noise) at games, but I dont want to knock this project and therefore I am not wanting to be negative.Pants wrote:It's a deliberate attempt to keep a cricket ground feel to the place rather than have a continuous concrete bowl. The idea is to have three separate and somewhat distinct stands.
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
can't help but think how much better the stadium would have turned out if the grassed area/ scoreboard were on the opposite side of the stadium and the southern stand was being built on the north. Would have had a perfect view of the city from where the current grassed area is.
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
One large concrete bowl can result in a lack of fresh air in the stadium.[Shuz] wrote:I'm curious - is there a reason for the large gaps in between the grandstands?
I think you I'll find for this reason there will always be big gaps between the stands.
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
No, pants is right. It was mentioned at least verbally, maybe even officially in some of the marketing material, about the gaps being a deliberate design element to retain the cricket ground feel, rather than enclosed bowl experience. A quick search from the below, but I know there was more said.claybro wrote:Pants, i am not sure of your expaination here. Is there evidence of this in the design brief? Certainly the Western stand is different because it is already there, and will be the smallest of the three. My understanding is that the Southern stand is the largent is because it has the most room to expand behind it. The Eastern stand is larger than the existing Western stand, but also smaller than the southern Stand due to a lack of room between the oval and KW Rd and provision for transit zone etc. I do have concerns that the gaps between the stands and the open Northern end will result in a loss of atmosphere (crowd noise) at games, but I dont want to knock this project and therefore I am not wanting to be negative.Pants wrote:It's a deliberate attempt to keep a cricket ground feel to the place rather than have a continuous concrete bowl. The idea is to have three separate and somewhat distinct stands.
"The redevelopment is also considerate of the views that have long been a part of coming to the Adelaide Oval and several carefully designed gaps in the architecture in the north and east will ensure the oval remains carefully integrated into the surrounding parklands." (from http://www.adelaideoval.com.au/94/fast-facts.aspx)
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
And thanks for the clarification. It does concern me that they wish to create a feeling inside the ground that it is still "integrated into" the parklands. Inside the ground should be about noise and atmosphere. But I guess what works for cricket is not necessarily best for football. I imagine Adelaide oval will be a far more pleasant place to watch cricket, but perhaps a tad less exciting than the cauldron type atmosphere of an MCG or Ethiad, although both those places are pretty desolate wihtout a big crowd.
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
I think you'll fund that when there's 35 - 50,000 people packed into the New Adelaide Oval, they'll be plenty of atmosphere comparable to anywhere in the world!
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[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
I'm glad they've kept 3 separate stands/pavilions as a point of difference to other stadia.
I also like the fact that they are trying to make it feel like part of the parklands. The vines on the outside of the stairwells are a nice touch (if this is still happening... seem to recall spotting it on a previous render).
The Gabba, for example, is an awful place to watch sport. I'd have hated for Adelaide Oval to have been turned into a soulless concrete bowl.
I also like the fact that they are trying to make it feel like part of the parklands. The vines on the outside of the stairwells are a nice touch (if this is still happening... seem to recall spotting it on a previous render).
The Gabba, for example, is an awful place to watch sport. I'd have hated for Adelaide Oval to have been turned into a soulless concrete bowl.
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
Matt wrote:The Gabba, for example, is an awful place to watch sport. I'd have hated for Adelaide Oval to have been turned into a soulless concrete bowl.
Ugh, my least favourite stadium. Just a big bowl with no definable features & the multi-coloured seats are awful.
[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment | 53,500 | $545m
The southern stand is starting to become visible from along North Terrace near Uni SA. It's becoming a part of the skyline similar to that of the MCG on a smaller scale of course
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